Silly vegoon, only the cute animals I didn’t want to eat have feelings. The others are unfeeling slabs of meat that is magically created by wholesome farmers being folksy.

The algorithm assigns weights to nodes in a neural network. These weights are derived by statistical association of tokens in the training data after they have been cleaned.

That is so enormously far from how we think humans learn (you don’t teach a kid to understand theory of mind by plopping them in front of the Gutenberg project and saying good luck, and yet they learn to explain theory of mind problems all the same) that it is just comically farcial to assume something similar is happening underneath.

It is very interesting that llms are able to appear to be conversational but claiming they have some sort of mind with an understanding of maths is as ridiculous as suggesting a chess bot understands the Pauli exclusion principle because it never moves two pieces into the same physical space.

I’m a curmudgeonly physics nerd, it’s very strange being on the side of a debate going “No now come on, that’s way too reductive”

You’re arguing against a position I didn’t put forward. Also

Seems like a pointless distinction, you were told it so you believe it to be the case? Why can’t we say the LLM outputs what it believes is the correct answer? You’re both just making some statement based on your prior experiences which may or may not be true

This is what excessive reduction does to a mfer. That is just such a hysterically absurd take.

Yep. You’re smarter than everyone who found it insightful.

By grabthar’s hammer, what a put down!

Yeah this is the exact criticism. They recombine language pieces without really doing language. The end result looks like language, but it lacks any of the important characteristics of language such as meaning and intention.

If I say “Two plus two is four” I am communicating my belief about mathematics.

If an llm emits “two plus two is four” it is outputting a stochastically selected series of tokens linked by probabilities derived from training data. If the statement is true or false then that is accidental.

Hence, stochastic parrot.

what’s the fine for this: https://youtu.be/CyJvZ1IS-bI?si=VI-KVW6baIUr9DuE ?

milquetoast btw https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milquetoast

confusing isn’t it?

https://pastebin.com/5ENcTSw4

Sort of fallacious to go from one case of time to happen and derive probability from it.

I’m no biologist but I don’t think any of our models of super early stuff are sophisticated enough to speculate on what stages are the most or least likely.

I have legit lost sleep over the first quote from “they thought they were free” listed here:

https://www.facinghistory.org/sites/default/files/2023-04/Reading_Do_You_Take_the_Oath.pdf

Yeah but you understand the difference between the state and the people who lived there right? Like Jewish settlers came from Europe, to the place Palestinian people were and had been living in.

They have a connection to the state of Palestinian (inasmuch as it exists given differing degrees of recognition) by way of having moral rights to continue living on the land they live on regardless of what some lines on a map call it.

Did you know about this before searching it out? Their other activities?

How many articles did it get in major papers approx? How many days reporting?

How many times have your heard about them painting private jets in the news?

NOBODY SPRAYPAINTED STONEHENGE

they threw corn starch on it. Corn starch.

actually loads of people do spraypaint stone henge, but JSO didn’t.

You are literally spreading propaganda against climate protest.

Why? Do you want to discouraged protest? Do you want to distract from the environmental vandalism of oil companies? Do you want to empower governments to pass anti protest measures?

What is your goal here? If you are trying to recruit for an eco terrorist cell surely you’d do better psyching people up rather than ridiculing some of the most risk-comfortable protesters.

edit: You know I’m actually not done. They haven’t destroyed any paintings, they threw soup on glass. Unlike the fossil fuel industry which has destroyed like entire fucking species, in unknowable numbers.

Also you want to whinge about a blocked road but want people to destroy pipelines? what do you think happens when petrol stations can’t get fuel? Sure seems like that’ll stop even more people getting to work on time.

Could you uncritically absorb oil company astroturfing and pro status quo media bullshit a little less eagerly?

relevant usa civil rights quote applies:

First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can’t agree with your methods of direct action;” who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a “more convenient season.”

Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."

Your armchair iamvertsmart take is counterproductive.

Eh, this is a little simplistic. While it is indisputably true that you have to look at per capita emissions and that chinese manufacturing makes loads of the stuff made that second point needs more exploring.

Because capitalism is a garbage, nightmare system manufacturing gets sent, in general, to the cheapest manufacturer. The fantasy is this represents the most awesome, magical, and clever business but IRL it usually has more to do with loosest tax, safety, and environmental laws.

So you can’t view the manufacturing as some selfless sacrifice of emissions, there may be government policies in play meaning idk dirty power is really cheap or whatever.

I basically think country vs country is a fucking stupid lens to view this through in general, because for all some fakelandian business might dump uranium in a river fakelandia is probably the way it is for reasons that non uranium dumping countries aren’t guilt free in.

our global system has produced these problems, not moustache twirling villianous defectors.

do you have concerns about buying American stuff? I mean the usa just got outed running an antivax campaign to kill Asian people while hoarding vaccines.

States aren’t your friend yo

This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read. It’s almost into not even wrong territory. I think you should contact a philosophy department and ask them why they haven’t considered this.