• EatATaco@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    It wasn’t meant to be insulting to Americans, the hate for learning to join up letters and write quickly just doesn’t really make sense to the rest of us.

    Lol this is like the best example of pissing on my foot and telling me it’s raining.

    You know what’s stupid and fucking ignorant? Assuming everyone has a laptop on them all the time.

    And if I had argued that we shouldn’t need to learn cursive because everyone has a laptop all the time, this wouldn’t be a completely fucking stupid argument. Alas, I did not.

    I also almost never write in cursive and know how. I can count on one hand how many times in my life I was like “oh crap! I should switch over to cursive to save some time!” and I lost all the fingers on that hand in a freak grenade accident (joking).

    This is especially stupid because I actually support kids learning cursive. It’s just a skill that is much less important than it was 50 years ago and so I don’t particularly care either way if kids learn it.

    You can just admit you were wrong, its much easier than trying to pile on more nonsense to justify the ignorant insult.

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      11 months ago

      I was wrong about what exactly? My facetious point about American and World views on the matter? I still think it was on point despite not being 100% serious.

      It’s absolutely commonplace in the UK to learn this at an extremely young age and not something that “takes up valuable learning time”. It seems weird not to learn it. How about we don’t learn how to paint either because most people don’t have use for watercolours in their daily life?

      I think the fact I’m being down voted by the Americans who don’t want to learn cursive is kind of a hilarious confirmation.

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        11 months ago

        There’s no need to learn cursive, it serves no functional purpose that typing cannot match. Other than your signature, which… you have to learn how to do separate to cursive anyway to protect yourself from fraud by making it as unique and as difficult to replicate as possible.

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          11 months ago

          Good luck typing something when you have no electronic device nearby or no power. I know we live in a connected, techno-cebtric world now, but it’s wild to think that this simple skill is no longer valued at all by some.

          Also, your signature being the thing protecting you from fraud is quite hilarious from a European perspective too!

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            11 months ago

            Since the invention of the smartphone I haven’t been without an electronic device nearby for a single moment. And if by some chance I find myself in this incredibly unlikely scenario, a power outage that’s long enough to outlast my phone battery, and for some reason desperately need to write something down, I could just write it down in print. That is, if I can even find a piece of paper and a writing utensil. I just don’t think the few times over the course of my life that this incredibly unlikely scenario happens, will make it somehow worth it to learn and remember a second form of hand writing when the first will do.

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              11 months ago

              Remember a second form of hand writing? What did they do to you in your schools??

              Block letters to me are just the same capital letters I would use for cursive. They are one and the same to me and I don’t get how its such a big deal to write fluidly in one pen stroke.

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                11 months ago

                In America, cursive letters don’t look like block letters. Thats the point of this entire post. Kids can’t read it because it’s almost like learning a second alphabet. If they were one and the same why would anyone have trouble reading it?

                In America plenty of people write regular print fluidly in one, or fewer pen strokes. But that’s not the same thing as cursive in America. Cursive is a very specific script of very extravagant, stylized letters.

                I was taught to read and write cursive in grade school and now as an adult I literally can’t, because I’ve forgotten.

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                  11 months ago

                  I think you need to look up the word cursive. Whatever traumatised you in school had a name that you didn’t learn such as D’Nealian Script. Cursive is the all encompassing word for flowing joined up script.

                  I have a hard time comprehending why anyone would have trouble reading it in the first place.

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                    It’s Zaner-Bloser script, and that is what Americans are referring to when they say cursive. We have joined-up script here but we don’t call it cursive, even if technically speaking, it is. And it isn’t traumatizing, it’s just a pointless waste of time, and nobody wants to actively waste their time when they could be doing something of value instead.

                    It’s not hard to comprehend why people can’t read it, half of the letters don’t even resemble their print counterparts. You’d have to learn the cursive alphabet the same way you had to learn the print alphabet. If you don’t do that, you wouldn’t be able to read it, especially if somebody’s handwriting isn’t incredibly clean and clear.