You know, when you advantage a hypothetical displacement over an ongoing one, the implicit argument is that Israelis are superior to Palestinians. You’re asking: wouldn’t it be horrible for the Palestinians to do to the Israelis what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians?
If you think it’s unfair to displace one oppressed people in favor of another, then yea, I agree.
Let’s also not forget that these people didn’t seem to care that Israel very much engaged in “from the river to the sea” when they continued to displace and marginalize the majority-population mid-20th century as dictated by outside nations.
And if the world was that concerned over the refugees of the Holocaust, why didn’t the British or Poland volunteer a piece of their own land?
Let’s also not forget that these people didn’t seem to care that Israel very much engaged in “from the river to the sea” when they continued to displace and marginalize the majority-population mid-20th century as dictated by outside nations.
This was actually in the original charter for Likud
The thing is that nobody cares about Holocaust survivors, Israel has completely forgotten about them and most died in abject poverty despite the world paying lip service with millions in charity and repairs ending up in the pockets of zionist politicians while the holocaust survivors suffered and starved.
Umm. Generalize much? Sure there are some people fitting that description but the vast majority of holocaust survivora have led hugely successful lives. Heck, they built Israel.
At least, you know, they allow people to be gay or have another religion.
It’s interesting how so many people stan for a place like Gaza and the Westbank. And even call for Israel to be abolished and everyone become a part of a new country called “Palestine” that murders gay people and openly hates people of other ethnicities and religions.
It does seem to me like these people either don’t know much about the culture and history there, or they don’t care. Which doesn’t fit to the overall virtue signalling to pretend to be on the side of justice.
Again, you are painting all Palestinians as members of Hamas. They are not. And it is obvious they are not given the demographics of the region. Thousands of children have died in Gaza. They are just kids man. Israel will never be able to get rid of the stain and the people of America are waking up to what we are funding.
You are also making Israel out to be a bastion of rights for minorities or women. When Utah or Alabama are more progressive than you, it doesn’t say much good about your system.
The slogan is Palestine will be free. It is meant to say that everyone, EVERYONE in the land between the river and the sea will be free. Meaning that Jews and non Jewish arabs should live side by side as equals instead of the evil supremacists system Israel has today.
I view it as a call for a secular democracy without apartheid, which worked out in South Africa well enough without blood shed. I hope it goes as well in Israel.
I think it’s unfair to expect a people to just belly up and die because Jihadists are using their own people as human shields.
There have been over 7 times where the Palestinian people have had a chance to establish an actual state. They refused each and every time. So I’m struggling to see a parallel between what Israel is doing (defending its people) vs what you are suggesting.
The Palestinian people have had many many options to accept a two state solution and “be free”.
But they will never be free because their leaders only want the distruction of Israel and death of all jews. And, since the people and the rest of the world are intent on critisizing only Israel and making no moves towards freeing the Palestinian people from Hamas, they will NOT be free.
I’m tempering my response here considering it looks like this account is singularly focused on zionist agitprop, but this bit here:
And, since the people and the rest of the world are intent on critisizing[sic] only Israel and making no moves towards freeing the Palestinian people from Hamas, they will NOT be free.
sure sounds a lot like you’re attempting to justify genocide because people have rightly criticized Israel for brutality and indifference toward the [non-combatant] people of Gaza.
I can at least feel reassured that none of your fascistic and genocidal comments have gotten much support here. You should redirect your efforts elsewhere.
Ah. The genocide card.
It’s actually great when people bring that one up.
Please check these facts:
Palestinian population 1948: 1.37 million
Palestinian population 2023: 5.5 million in Israel, about 14.2 million world wide.
Here’s a meme concept for you, the one with the dog from rick and morty: “where’s the genocide summer?”
Btw, for real genocide:
Jewish population of europe before ww2: 9.5 million
Jewish population after ww2: 3.5 million
See how that works?
I’m Palestinian, grew up in a Palestinian family, went to lots of protests, “Kill all Jews” is not something people say out or appreciate. The problem is with Zionists, not Jew.
That being said, totally legal to march in Israel and chant “Death to all Arabs”
Yes, antisemitism exists. No, Palestinians as a collective don’t want to kill all Jews. The Israel government on the other hand is adamant to kill every last Palestinian or ethnically cleanse them with forced displacement.
And no, I did not go to those protests, and if I did I would have spoken up about it and not let people chant such bullshit.
And no, I don’t go to mosques, I’m an atheist.
Ah yes and the antisemitism in books claim:
One religious studies textbook asks students to discuss the “repeated attempts by the Jews to kill the prophet” Muhammad and asks who are “other enemies of Islam.”
This is a historical event, regarding specifically the Jewish tribes near Mecca. That being said, fuck Mohammed and fuck Israel just the same.
A math text showed a picture of Palestinians hitting Israeli soldiers with slingshots to describe Newton’s second law of motion.
LOL. What is the issue exactly? Doesn’t say “Jews”, says specifically hitting an Israel soldier, as one should when all means of resistance have run out.
Another textbook “promotes a conspiracy theory that Israel removed the original stones of ancient sites in Jerusalem and replaced them with ones bearing “Zionist drawings and shapes.”
Yes, good example of antisemitism, haven’t double checked this though and don’t really know what it refers to 🤔 pretty sure Israel ruined all sorts of historical Palestinian sites anyway.
About Dalal Al Maghrebi, yeah, that’s bad, I agree, she should not be hailed as a hero.
The Israel government on the other hand is adamant to kill every last Palestinian or ethnically cleanse them with forced displacement. - please show your proof.
And please don’t give me quotes from several outliers which unfortunately have been brought recently into the Israeli government.
They don’t represent the majority of Israel as apperantly the multitudes cheering in the streets while the October 7th hostiges were paraded through Gaza streets represent the people of Gaza.
You know, when you advantage a hypothetical displacement over an ongoing one, the implicit argument is that Israelis are superior to Palestinians. You’re asking: wouldn’t it be horrible for the Palestinians to do to the Israelis what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians?
If you think it’s unfair to displace one oppressed people in favor of another, then yea, I agree.
And the slogan is “Palestine will be free”. It isn’t that Israelis will be exiled or some shit. It is a call for liberation of all people.
Let’s also not forget that these people didn’t seem to care that Israel very much engaged in “from the river to the sea” when they continued to displace and marginalize the majority-population mid-20th century as dictated by outside nations.
And if the world was that concerned over the refugees of the Holocaust, why didn’t the British or Poland volunteer a piece of their own land?
I mean, it’s because the antisemites wanted to get rid of their Jewish population. Belfour (of the declaration fame) was wildly antisemitic.
This was actually in the original charter for Likud
The thing is that nobody cares about Holocaust survivors, Israel has completely forgotten about them and most died in abject poverty despite the world paying lip service with millions in charity and repairs ending up in the pockets of zionist politicians while the holocaust survivors suffered and starved.
Umm. Generalize much? Sure there are some people fitting that description but the vast majority of holocaust survivora have led hugely successful lives. Heck, they built Israel.
You mean like women and minorities are “free” in Palestine?
Pink washing doesn’t really work when the state you are staning for doesn’t allow interfaith or gay marriages to be performed in country.
At least, you know, they allow people to be gay or have another religion.
It’s interesting how so many people stan for a place like Gaza and the Westbank. And even call for Israel to be abolished and everyone become a part of a new country called “Palestine” that murders gay people and openly hates people of other ethnicities and religions.
It does seem to me like these people either don’t know much about the culture and history there, or they don’t care. Which doesn’t fit to the overall virtue signalling to pretend to be on the side of justice.
Again, you are painting all Palestinians as members of Hamas. They are not. And it is obvious they are not given the demographics of the region. Thousands of children have died in Gaza. They are just kids man. Israel will never be able to get rid of the stain and the people of America are waking up to what we are funding.
You are also making Israel out to be a bastion of rights for minorities or women. When Utah or Alabama are more progressive than you, it doesn’t say much good about your system.
The slogan is Palestine will be free. It is meant to say that everyone, EVERYONE in the land between the river and the sea will be free. Meaning that Jews and non Jewish arabs should live side by side as equals instead of the evil supremacists system Israel has today.
I view it as a call for a secular democracy without apartheid, which worked out in South Africa well enough without blood shed. I hope it goes as well in Israel.
I think it’s unfair to expect a people to just belly up and die because Jihadists are using their own people as human shields. There have been over 7 times where the Palestinian people have had a chance to establish an actual state. They refused each and every time. So I’m struggling to see a parallel between what Israel is doing (defending its people) vs what you are suggesting.
This makes it sound like Israel’s existence depends on the Palestinian people NOT being free
What a coincidence, it does.
The Palestinian people have had many many options to accept a two state solution and “be free”. But they will never be free because their leaders only want the distruction of Israel and death of all jews. And, since the people and the rest of the world are intent on critisizing only Israel and making no moves towards freeing the Palestinian people from Hamas, they will NOT be free.
I’m tempering my response here considering it looks like this account is singularly focused on zionist agitprop, but this bit here:
sure sounds a lot like you’re attempting to justify genocide because people have rightly criticized Israel for brutality and indifference toward the [non-combatant] people of Gaza.
I can at least feel reassured that none of your fascistic and genocidal comments have gotten much support here. You should redirect your efforts elsewhere.
Ah. The genocide card. It’s actually great when people bring that one up. Please check these facts: Palestinian population 1948: 1.37 million Palestinian population 2023: 5.5 million in Israel, about 14.2 million world wide. Here’s a meme concept for you, the one with the dog from rick and morty: “where’s the genocide summer?”
Btw, for real genocide: Jewish population of europe before ww2: 9.5 million Jewish population after ww2: 3.5 million See how that works?
“Genocide”
Yes I’m posting this again
I’m Palestinian, grew up in a Palestinian family, went to lots of protests, “Kill all Jews” is not something people say out or appreciate. The problem is with Zionists, not Jew.
That being said, totally legal to march in Israel and chant “Death to all Arabs”
Ok. I assume you don’t live in Gaza. Because then you’d be learning antisemitism in school: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/eu-study-confirms-incitement-in-palestinian-textbooks
And I assume you don’t go to mosque because then you’d be hearing about gharqad
And probably didn’t attend these protests: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/death-to-the-jews-chants-heard-at-berlin-pro-palestinian-rally/amp/
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/rjdkan0mp
Yes, antisemitism exists. No, Palestinians as a collective don’t want to kill all Jews. The Israel government on the other hand is adamant to kill every last Palestinian or ethnically cleanse them with forced displacement.
And no, I did not go to those protests, and if I did I would have spoken up about it and not let people chant such bullshit.
And no, I don’t go to mosques, I’m an atheist.
Ah yes and the antisemitism in books claim:
This is a historical event, regarding specifically the Jewish tribes near Mecca. That being said, fuck Mohammed and fuck Israel just the same.
LOL. What is the issue exactly? Doesn’t say “Jews”, says specifically hitting an Israel soldier, as one should when all means of resistance have run out.
Yes, good example of antisemitism, haven’t double checked this though and don’t really know what it refers to 🤔 pretty sure Israel ruined all sorts of historical Palestinian sites anyway.
About Dalal Al Maghrebi, yeah, that’s bad, I agree, she should not be hailed as a hero.
The Israel government on the other hand is adamant to kill every last Palestinian or ethnically cleanse them with forced displacement. - please show your proof. And please don’t give me quotes from several outliers which unfortunately have been brought recently into the Israeli government. They don’t represent the majority of Israel as apperantly the multitudes cheering in the streets while the October 7th hostiges were paraded through Gaza streets represent the people of Gaza.
>They don’t represent the majority of Israel
but they do represent the actual government
Everything on the news today. That’s proof.