• nymnympseudonym@piefed.social
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    14 天前

    As a deeply concerned US voter who desperately wants a massive blue wave in November, I am very pleased with this result.

    I don’t care if you hate milquetoast moderates. We need leadership that the broadest possible swathe of society will consider legitimate

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      14 天前

      “We don’t need policies that will help people…we just need to win elections”, is literally why things suck so much.

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        14 天前

        Having amazing policies does nothing to help actual people unless you can enact them. If you want to participate in electoral politics (as opposed to building working class power directly) then winning elections is one of the core components of that.

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          12 天前

          Democrats have an incredibly easy opportunity right now, just like in 2020 and 2024. They could simply point to all the bad stuff the Republicans have done and promise to do better things. The Dems should be winning by outstanding margins by promising very simple things, like not shooting immigrants or making groceries cheaper. Instead, the Dems promise nothing and as a result, what should be really easy races become down to the wire nail biters.

          The Democrat party simply needs to follow the playbook of the most successful Democrat in history, FDR. Promise progressive policies and then actively work towards those policies and you get elected so often they gotta change the rules to stop you from getting re-elected. We can see this with the most popular modern Dem president Obama. He did half the equation, promise progressive change, and even though he didn’t follow through, dude got elected twice and is still a household name in the Dem party. Clinton, Biden, and Kamala weren’t even willing to lie about enacting positive changes and Biden only won because Trump’s COVID policies killed over a million people. Even then, Biden won by a tiny margin when, again, he should have won by an incredible margin.

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            12 天前

            Dems don’t promise nothing, they promised to go to war and crush the progressives.

        • nymnympseudonym@piefed.social
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          14 天前

          … and even if you win, if a big chunk of the population doesn’t consider you legitimate, that is society slowly disintegrating

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        14 天前

        You do understand that the majority of MAGA believe their policies help people?

        (yes, they only include people like themselves, but to have a properly nuanced understanding you should acknowledge that your political opponents believe themselves to be doing good)

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          13 天前

          You do understand that the majority of MAGA believe their policies help people?

          They believe it helps them, and that’s all they care about. Themselves. As far as “people” in general, they couldn’t give less of a shit.

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          13 天前

          Sure. It’s fine to acknowledge that they think they’re helping people…but the real nuance comes from understanding that those policies actually aren’t helping people.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      14 天前

      milquetoast moderates

      The big takeaway for me is people are u ironically calling Crowley a “milquetoast moderate”…

      Dude has literally sued his police department…

      https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/state-legislator-joins-aclu-lawsuit-against-stop-and-frisk-program-milwaukee-police

      Not just personally sued them, joined an existing ACLU class action.

      Then became vice chair of the same city:s ACLU chapter…

      I wanted Hong to win too, but it’s concerning so many people are quick to paint this guy like you just did.

      He seems fine, and while I may have missed something, I usually don’t.

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        14 天前

        He supports the genocide in Gaza and cynically weaponizes identity politics to defend his position. He said he considers being called an establishment candidate a slur. Crowley is not fine, he’s a sellout who fails the most basic test of moral character that is condemning an ongoing genocide in which our own government is complicit.

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          12 天前

          Right…

          So if someone showed he was working with AIPAC, that would be a bad thing…

          But no one has so what the fuck are you taking about?

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            12 天前

            So I’m looking and I have no idea why I wrote this. I think maybe I responded to the wrong person? This has nothing to do with what you said, apologies

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        14 天前

        The DSP arm hate the impure: anyone slightly less to the left than them.

        Dynamics work the same on the edges, left or right

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          14 天前

          Not really, it’s desperate propaganda to divide the party.

          What I did was say that divide is stupid and highlight that sometimes more than one person running in a primary could make a good politician.

          What you did, was divide the party

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      14 天前

      Uh… leadership that doesn’t do shit isn’t famous for having a lot of legitimacy. These days milquetoast moderates only have legitimacy among other milquetoast moderates; the days when a moderate one-size-fits-no-one politicians will have people shrug their shoulder and think “oh well” are long gone. People today want politicians who have concrete solutions to the problems of the working class and are willing to work to make them happen; that’s how you build legitimacy in 2026.