• Tarambor@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    What should happen is that they should have Trump arrested, put before numerous courts including the ICC, have all the wealth he accumulated during his Presidency confiscated and him thrown in jail.

    What will happen is he’ll get a pardon.

  • DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip
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    15 hours ago

    Man I don’t even give a damn anymore. This is what its always been they used to just keep appearances up. It’s a circus of our suffering for the aristocracy.

    Fuck Trump. Fuck the next president too. Fuck them all. None of them give a fuck about us or our children.

    We should start over.

  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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    1 day ago

    Should they or would they? Should they? Of course not. Will they ? Of course because no POTUS wants to set precedent of accountability.

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      22 hours ago

      It’s like that thing in the drive thru, where the person in the car ahead paid for your coffee. The President pardons the president behind him so the next president can pardon him.

  • 4grams@awful.systems
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    18 hours ago

    No, not a chance. They need to make these criminals accountable, and if they can’t, they need to invent new laws to lock them away forever (no joke, I don’t care how unconstitutional it is, never stopped the current administration). Things need to change, this has to be a lesson.

    I doubt it will happen though. 4 seconds after winning, if the dems get power, they will once again discover decorum and will claim it to be their most precious asset.

    But even then I won’t despair, because at least a slightly less criminal enterprise will be in control and we can vote for better ones next time.

    This of course will never happen though, because instead of incremental changes for good in the right direction, moron Americans will fall for the next “one weird trick” when a single election doesn’t solve every problem in the world.

    Eh, maybe some despair after all.

  • Peacepath@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Is there a chance the next president of the US be neither republican nor democrat (for the parties labels)?

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    2 days ago

    Hard to pardon someone who hasn’t like…been sentenced or impeached yet. For some reason.

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      2 days ago

      except that is literally what Ford did to Nixon, and pardons aren’t a thing for impeachment anyway (for US federal offenses)

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        2 days ago

        I do think you have to admit to the crime tho. I could be wrong but accepting a pardon means you agree you were guilty I believe.

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            2 days ago

            Interesting. So you don’t have to admit it but if you accept the pardon you are essentially guilty.

            “implicit admission of guilt” it says.

            I would assume that means that media could say you are guilty and you couldn’t sue them for slander. Like you don’t have to say you are guilty but you cant claim you are innocent… well you can claim anything I guess but yeah people could safely call you guilty at that point.

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    2 days ago

    You should drop him into Iran to face punishment from the Iranian families whose children he bombed at school.

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      1 day ago

      There ain’t enough of him to go around. Willing to negotiate sending a musk, hegseth, or thiel though.

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      2 days ago

      14A3 disqualification and legally nullify the entire second term (erases all pardons and eliminates all immunity), impeachment, prosecution for crimes against humanity, put him against the wall