If conservatives want to listen to music that echos what they hear in Murdoch media outlets, they might want to avoid punk. Also, hip hop and rap. Probably also want to avoid, metal, classic rock, folk, indie, jazz, and EDM. Best to just avoid cool, formerly cool, and or cool adjacent music.
You should be generally safe with pop country, Christian rock, and post-00’s butt rock.
Don’t worry, conservatives still have Kid Rock, that dude from Staind, Gene Simmons, and Ted “shit himself to avoid the draft” Nugent. Truly the best of the best, huh?
Given that the conservatives keep being surprised by bands not supporting their shit agenda, yeah… we do. They thought Rage Against the Machine aligned with them politically. They aren’t going to figure it out on their own.
Holy fuck, now I’m wondering if that song effectively ended up as recruitment material to encourage more cross burners to seek employment in law enforcement.
I remember back in the mid 2000s when they latched on to the Dixie Chicks’ pop country music as being ‘wholesome conservative music’. And then their very vocal rage when the Dixie Chicks publicly dissed W.
That was pretty funny. Not quite on a level of ‘freedom fries’ funny, or ‘buying expensive French wine only to pour it down the drain in protest’ funny. But it wasn’t too far off.
I respect The Chicks a lot more looking back and realizing just how strong their position was when you basically had an entire media industry and censorship falling behind Bush, 9/11, the Iraq War.
first ive heard of the expensive french wine down the drain, is there a name for that protest? im a winemaker in australia this shit is hilarious to me
Not sure about a name for the protest, but the are a number of articles out there. There’s a entertaining NYT article about a restauranteur pouring $1,000 bottles of don Peringnon(sp?) down his toilet in protest. But it’s behind a postal so I won’t link that one. But here’s another related link:
That whole anti-French movement was insane. I remember my wife and I were going to visit England (where I am from, but I live in America) that summer. And the shuttle driver (who was taking us to the airport) and I got friendly chit-chatting. Very cordial and easy-breazy. But he stopped mid-sentence and asked if I was French (because French and English accents are so similar?!). When I told him I wasn’t, he said “that’s good, because if you were I’d pull over right now and leave you on the side of the freeway!” Kind of ironic too, that driver was a black dude, so I’ve would think he’d be a bit more mindful of how stupid discrimination is.
You know, I just realized that Hitler failing to get into art school is so much deeper of a joke than I realized.
Dude was an authoritarian. Artists are pretty universally anti authority. You could say it was his lack of skill to get into art school, or his education, or a whole bunch of things. Or you can say Hilter was already anti-artist, why would an art school educate that?
You should be generally safe with pop country, Christian rock, and post-00’s butt rock.
I have a counterpoint to Christian rock. The first album I bought at the Christian bookstore in the mid 90s, back when they had those “if you like [secular band], listen to [Christian band]” charts, was the Christian ska band Five Iron Frenzy’s Upbeats and Beatdowns. The first chorus on the first song destroyed my sheltered church kid brain:
West we must, in God we trust, lets rape lets kill lets steal
We can almost justify, anything we feel
As the Bush years set in and the fight for gay marriage and abortion caused increasing political reactions from the church, many of these lyrics I attribute to starting my journey to the margins of church culture, discovering Christian socialism, New Monasticism, and an eventual leadership role. I later left the church and religion for other reasons.
A lot of Christian rock is purely marketing though, bands that could be signed to major labels but found a Christian label willing to pay them. It’s a huge industry. Contemporary Christian Music/CCM swallowed up a lot of the industry back when I was more engaged with it. Newsboys going worship represents this for anyone in the know here, basically a pretty quirky and idiosyncratic band turning in to the most bland and boring Christian music possible. Could maybe argue the same for early Reliant K who turned in to pretty mainstream post punk.
Why do they have the worst music, art, and comedians? The only ones I can think of over the past century are Wagner, HP Lovecraft, and Kelsey Grammer. The past 100 years has produced more culture than all of human history combined and multiplied. Of that ocean I can only come up with 3 names that might be remembered a century from now. Not sure about 2 of them.
If conservatives want to listen to music that echos what they hear in Murdoch media outlets, they might want to avoid punk. Also, hip hop and rap. Probably also want to avoid, metal, classic rock, folk, indie, jazz, and EDM. Best to just avoid cool, formerly cool, and or cool adjacent music.
You should be generally safe with pop country, Christian rock, and post-00’s butt rock.
Don’t worry, conservatives still have Kid Rock, that dude from Staind, Gene Simmons, and Ted “shit himself to avoid the draft” Nugent. Truly the best of the best, huh?
He already said avoid cool music. You didn’t have to illustrate it further.
Given that the conservatives keep being surprised by bands not supporting their shit agenda, yeah… we do. They thought Rage Against the Machine aligned with them politically. They aren’t going to figure it out on their own.
Who did they think the Machine was?
I suspect that they heard “killing in the name” and thought it was gloating instead of protest.
“Some of those who work forces, are the same that burn crosses”
Murrica!
Holy fuck, now I’m wondering if that song effectively ended up as recruitment material to encourage more cross burners to seek employment in law enforcement.
Right? We hear the song and say “yup, that’s how it is unfortunately.” They hear the song and say “Oh shit I found my people, where do I sign!?”
Bert?
The washing machine probably
Don’t forget 3 doors down.
wat
I’m sure plenty of them still buy the urban legend about 311’s name.
Exactly. Butt rock.
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I remember back in the mid 2000s when they latched on to the Dixie Chicks’ pop country music as being ‘wholesome conservative music’. And then their very vocal rage when the Dixie Chicks publicly dissed W.
That was pretty funny. Not quite on a level of ‘freedom fries’ funny, or ‘buying expensive French wine only to pour it down the drain in protest’ funny. But it wasn’t too far off.
The Dixie Chicks are one of the few acts that were actually kind of “canceled”.
I respect The Chicks a lot more looking back and realizing just how strong their position was when you basically had an entire media industry and censorship falling behind Bush, 9/11, the Iraq War.
first ive heard of the expensive french wine down the drain, is there a name for that protest? im a winemaker in australia this shit is hilarious to me
Not sure about a name for the protest, but the are a number of articles out there. There’s a entertaining NYT article about a restauranteur pouring $1,000 bottles of don Peringnon(sp?) down his toilet in protest. But it’s behind a postal so I won’t link that one. But here’s another related link:
https://dailybruin.com/2018/03/15/throwback-thursday-locals-pour-wine-in-westwood-streets-protest-french-aversion-to-iraq-war
That whole anti-French movement was insane. I remember my wife and I were going to visit England (where I am from, but I live in America) that summer. And the shuttle driver (who was taking us to the airport) and I got friendly chit-chatting. Very cordial and easy-breazy. But he stopped mid-sentence and asked if I was French (because French and English accents are so similar?!). When I told him I wasn’t, he said “that’s good, because if you were I’d pull over right now and leave you on the side of the freeway!” Kind of ironic too, that driver was a black dude, so I’ve would think he’d be a bit more mindful of how stupid discrimination is.
I am going to say it. I don’t think it was real. I think they filled those bottles with red dyed water. It felt so manufactured at the time.
You know they drank it off camera and refilled it with cool aid.
People that actually invest in Dom sold that to some rich middle fucks and refilled the bottle.
WTYPpod brought up the Dixie Chicks in their bonus episode about country music.
Interesting to hear about.
They even go by “The Chicks” now to ditch the Confederate association.
You know, I just realized that Hitler failing to get into art school is so much deeper of a joke than I realized.
Dude was an authoritarian. Artists are pretty universally anti authority. You could say it was his lack of skill to get into art school, or his education, or a whole bunch of things. Or you can say Hilter was already anti-artist, why would an art school educate that?
“passable level of technique, entirely uninspired work without any semblance of originality”
they saw right through him.
The failed actor to right wing pipeline is definitely a phenomenon, see Crowder and Shapiro. It’s almost a welfare program for wealthy fail-sons.
it was super bland architectural art, not really anything emotional
They got both types of music. Country and Western.
Nope Taylor Swift and The Chicks are bringing in pop country too.
This being “the left can’t meme” adjacent, my favorite one to pull out in this type of discussion is “name one successful right-wing comedian.”
I have a counterpoint to Christian rock. The first album I bought at the Christian bookstore in the mid 90s, back when they had those “if you like [secular band], listen to [Christian band]” charts, was the Christian ska band Five Iron Frenzy’s Upbeats and Beatdowns. The first chorus on the first song destroyed my sheltered church kid brain:
As the Bush years set in and the fight for gay marriage and abortion caused increasing political reactions from the church, many of these lyrics I attribute to starting my journey to the margins of church culture, discovering Christian socialism, New Monasticism, and an eventual leadership role. I later left the church and religion for other reasons.
A lot of Christian rock is purely marketing though, bands that could be signed to major labels but found a Christian label willing to pay them. It’s a huge industry. Contemporary Christian Music/CCM swallowed up a lot of the industry back when I was more engaged with it. Newsboys going worship represents this for anyone in the know here, basically a pretty quirky and idiosyncratic band turning in to the most bland and boring Christian music possible. Could maybe argue the same for early Reliant K who turned in to pretty mainstream post punk.
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Does anyone remember that Lee Greenwood song they used to play at every Fourth of July celebration in the 90s?
Why do they have the worst music, art, and comedians? The only ones I can think of over the past century are Wagner, HP Lovecraft, and Kelsey Grammer. The past 100 years has produced more culture than all of human history combined and multiplied. Of that ocean I can only come up with 3 names that might be remembered a century from now. Not sure about 2 of them.