Nassau County police on Thursday have responded to a bomb threat at the home of Judge Arthur Engoron, the judge presiding over former President Donald Trump’s civil fraud case, a source with direct knowledge of the situation told NBC News.

The threat comes hours before closing arguments in the trial are scheduled to begin, with those arguments still expected to proceed.

A bomb squad was called to Engoron’s home and was investigating Thursday morning; it is unclear whether Engoron was home at the time.

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    Trump had asked to deliver part of the closing arguments himself, but Engoron rejected the request Wednesday in a contentious email exchange with Trump’s lawyers after the former president refused to commit to only speaking about the facts of the case and not engage in any attacks.

    The judge didn’t really reject their request, they simply ghosted him when he told them the terms under which he would accept their request, and after 2 or 3 deadline extensions their opportunity lapsed.

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            Yeah, it’s so ridiculous. Extremely clear that he just wanted to go on one of his usual rants and didn’t want any restrictions. It’s what he tried to do when he was being examined by the prosecution. He tried to pull out and read from a paper he had in his pocket that would “explain everything” and how he did nothing wrong.

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      My little daydream is that thr judge’s terms were something simple like “I want your statement beforehand so I can review it. But, you have to write it yourself, by hand. Your own hand.” And he just couldn’t muster up the gumption to do his own work.

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    It’s only a matter of time before one of these fucks actually does something.

    Edit: They’ve already done plenty… I don’t know why I worded my original comment like that. I guess I’m just waiting for someone to do something that even the most head-in-the-sand people can’t ignore, as if J6 wasn’t enough.

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      They already have been. For years. Shooting up churches, destroying power grid infrastructure, etc.

      It’s just their violence largely affects brown people and that doesn’t fly in the media.

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        As if the DOJ could be proactive without Congressional Republicans fanning the flames of an insurrection of their own. Did you see them grill Merrick Garland?

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      What makes you think they haven’t? Remember 1/6? The MAGAbomber? Proud Boys picking fights in the streets? Hundreds of domestic terrorism events?

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    A great example of how his followers just want to blow up and maim anything and everything that gets in their way…

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        They have no intention of following through on any of them, it’s all theater for the base to distract from Trump’s legal troubles. What the GOP do when their anti-Christ is sentenced should be interesting, do they just drop and distance from him, or do they choose a “disciple” to carry on his evil deeds and speak for him?

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          They have no intention of following through on any of them, …

          That is probably true, but it’s elementary for them to say, “The rADiCaL LEfT has once again prevented us from rightfully removing these evil and corrupt officials from power!” (wink, wink, nudge, nudge, swatting and bomb threats at least)

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            It’s all they got, they have absolutely no platform that any of them can agree upon anymore. It’s divide the country and confuse the base so they don’t catch on, and then grift like it might all end when Trump is convicted.

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          He’s not getting sentenced for this, it’s a civil trial to assess damages. His business presence in NY will get sold off to pay the debt, and he’ll have to resort to grifting his political contributors to keep up his lifestyle.

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            Correct, this one is civil and no charges, but I was talking overall when he is convicted in one of the criminal trials. And the GOP is using the fake impeachments/Hunter to distract from all of it, the criminal is going to put him away, but I feel like he is going to be fined BIGLY in NY and then almost certainly lose his appeal.

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      Something something mad about Portland government property when my entertainment news tells me to be

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    All of those judges, attorneys and critics might end up in jail when big orange comes into power again. You just have to listen to his „Project 2025“ agenda.

    And nobody shall say they didn’t know what they were electing…

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      The question is whether their fear of the next week overrides their fear of next year.

      Lots of judges seem to be trying really hard to dance around actually doing their jobs (Engoron is not one of them).

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        Lots of judges seem to be trying really hard to dance around actually doing their jobs

        This is largely because you can only appeal a verdict based on mistrial. You need to be able to show the appellate courts that your original trial was unfair in some way. If the appellate court rules that your trial was fair, then the verdict stands and your appeal is tossed.

        Judges are bending over backwards to be patient with him, because they don’t want to give him any way to weasel out of it on appeal. Essentially, if they arrive at a guilty verdict, they don’t want him to be able to claim that the court was biased against him. When the appeals court goes back and looks at the trial, all they’ll see is the judge being patient with him at every single step. So his complaint against the judge won’t hold any water. These judges are playing the long game, by putting up with his shenanigans in their court they ensure he can’t try them anywhere else. Basically, they want their verdict to be as ironclad as possible, so he has no hope of getting out of it by crying to the judge’s superiors.

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    of course he faces threats of violence… any time a Trump supporter doesn’t get what they want, they threaten violence and anything else they can think of…

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    This doesn’t happen after a coup, does it?

    I’ve never lived in a place where the people in power took over in a coup. But, when I read about them, I never hear of the people who live there sending bomb threats to judges who are siding with the perpetrators of the coup. When a group takes power in a coup, they’re normally ruthless, they kill people who threaten them, and they make it clear that dissent won’t be tolerated.

    So, these MAGA / Q-Anon types believe that Biden took power in a coup by stealing the election. But, they also believe that it was such a soft coup that they didn’t bother to jail or kill Trump. It was such a gentle coup that the only “political prisoners” are the people who stormed the capitol, and then only after long investigations and public trials. It’s such a kind coup that they are happy to allow demonstrations, TV networks that oppose them, discussions on the Internet that they can’t control. These people also think that they can get away with sending bomb threats because the regime that took power in the coup is even softer on crime than the typical government, which would arrest people who sent bomb threats.

    How do you send a bomb threat to a judge without thinking are we the baddies? At some point you have to stop and think: our side is doing X, their side is doing Y.

    “our side” “their side”
    Sacking the capitol Stealing an election
    Sending bomb threats to judges Killing babies
    Abusing presidential power on day one as retribution against enemies, but only for one day Charging Trump in several open criminal and civil trials
    Paraphrasing Hitler Charging and trying people who rioted on Jan 6th in normal, open criminal trials

    Like, how do you make a list like that and never once consider whether your side might be the baddies?

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        They do those things because they think they’re the good guys fighting “the deep state” or something.

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      Oh, they know what they’re doing, 100%. Just like people readily forward misinformation that’s convenient to their cause fully knowing that it’s false, these folks will continue to parrot right-wing talking points for the same reasons. I think one relatively famous but small YouTuber came out and said so in their podcast openly and caused a stir on the Left. Even Musk has shared some mask-off images about forwarding false narratives. They know.

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      Oh they are guilty and they know their Führer is too. They are just not familiar with getting punished.

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      I think it’s a disservice to good, hardworking Americans to limit it at MAGA Republicans and not all conservatives.

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        Nah they said they were all domestic terrorists at CPAC 2022. No reason not to take them at their word.

        They’re domestic terrorists seeking to install theocratic rule in the U.S. in complete disregard of democracy. They should be dragged into the street and dealt with like the fundamentalists and terrorists they are.

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    He’s just trying to delay the decision because he knows he’s guilty.

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    I almost want to see what these bozos would come up with if they tried to build a bomb. Not exactly the best and brightest America has to offer so I’d expect some duds and premature detonations from “Jim-Bob’s Truck Nuts and IED Emporium”.

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        Funny (but not funny, as it was a tragedy) that you should bring up the OKC bombings as an example of building a good bomb. McVeigh’s bomb didn’t work properly and failed to fully high order, it was just so much ANFO that it didn’t even matter.

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      Having grown up in a redneck community, I’m quite confident Trump supporters can at least make a functional pipe bomb.

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      They could very likely come up with something very functional, making IEDs, and even cooking your own explosive fillers is exceptionally easy, you really only need a very basic understanding of chemistry and circuitry (like grade 9 or 10 level). If extremists hiding in caves in Afghanistan could make consistent and effective devices with HME, then Joe Redneck with Internet access and over the counter access to Ammonium Nitrate Aluminum (Tannerite, which is legal in most states and often sold at gun stores) can probably do it too.

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      Did everyone forget they did make two PBs for the insurrection, both of which failed. And the FBI is still just sitting around playing with their dicks saying “boy gosh we sure DO want to find that person”.

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    r/conservative not caring, yet gaslighting with BLM name calling these days. They have no shame.