• Lt. Worf, son of Mogh@lemmy.ca
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    Watching TNG, I don’t know how Picard doesn’t completely lose his mind after so much trauma.

    Living a whole fake lifetime in Inner Light, then having it ripped away. Being tortured by the Cardassians. Being assimilated into the fucking Borg!

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      Some people just have higher constitution stats. Picard is maxed out. Service and duty above all else, no matter the cost. Even if that cost is a part of himself.

      I do love the episodes where he just cracks. The one after Best of Both Worlds when he’s hanging out at Chateau Picard with his family? Fantastic. Seeing him break at the end. First Contact as well when he loses his fucking mind. We kind of need that sometimes because if this dude who can survive anything is fracturing then what the hell does that mean for everyone else.

      Lowkey that’s also why the alternate Riker that’s being chased by the borg spooks me so much. Seeing him desperate and terrified… fuck. How bad was that world…

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        TNG in particular did a great job of stretching the characters by building them up to a definitive version and then showing us, in one way or another, a variant or situation that completely shatters that image. Data and Lore. Alternate Riker. Broken Picard. Troi and Lwaxana. Worf and also Worf but later.

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          Completely agree. Really strikes something inside to see them so vulnerable and changed.

          That being said… the sound that came out of my mouth when I read “Worf and also Worf” can only be described as a guffaw.

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            I was going to say Worf and Alexander but then I realized that it’s really Worf becoming a dad that shows us the transformed Worf.

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      I’m really torn on whether or not I think The Inner Light should’ve had more of an effect on him.

      The crux of the issue is that in his actual life he was a career guy who never made time for a family.

      So, on the one hand, living that life could’ve fulfilled his dream and made it so he could dedicate himself to being Starfleet with no regrets. In a real way, he got to have both.

      But on the other hand, if he dismisses that entire life as a hallucination and doesn’t embrace how it felt, it could make his longing-for-a-life-he-never-had that much worse.

      Seeing as we never saw him have a complete breakdown over it, and only mentioned it later on in First Contact that he had any regrets about being the last Picard, I can only assume the former was true. (Leaving aside Generations. Why are the odd-numbered Trek films always so goddamn weird?)

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          If you don’t appreciate The Motion Picture as a movie screen sized hours long version of a TV episode and opportunity for the first real beauty shots of the Enterprise, then you are no real Trekkie. :P

          Maybe it’s because I went to see it when it came out as a kid and it following the success of Star Wars simply blew me away. Best opening and intro of a retcon ever (the Klingons of course). Of course I like Wrath of Khan more, but I will defend the first movie every time as a masterpiece too.