• Trainguyrom@reddthat.com
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    10 months ago

    Bruh stop projecting. All I care about in any conflict is that is that civilians aren’t needlessly placed in danger and as a second priority combatant lives are minimally endangered as well.

    Living under the oppressive government of Hamas for so long many have been radicalized and antisemitic.

    Over 10,000 CHILDREN KILLED and you’re blathering about radicalization. You know what radicalizes people? Being the victim of a genocide. I fail to see how murdering hundreds of thousands of civilians prevents radicalization. You are sick and twisted if you seriously believe these civilian deaths are acceptable. You have to be pretty sick to so much as suggest that these countless deaths are acceptable.

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      10 months ago

      Then why not call for Hamas to surrender and face justice for the genocide they committed? That’s what started this war. And yes what Israel is doing is a war, not genocide. Not matter how many times you push this propaganda, it doesn’t make it true. It just makes the Palestinian movement look more and more unhinged.

      Are you so twisted you let Hamas off the hook for actual genocide? If Hamas surrenders, the civilian casualties would stop. Why do you think Hamas is not responsible for this war? Why do you think the deaths of Jews is acceptable?

      Do you think it’s acceptable for Hamas to hide in underground bunkers while the civilian population is above them at the mercy of an army they claim is committing genocide? Why don’t the civilians just tell the IDF where the tunnels are so they can finish the job, and end this war?

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        10 months ago

        Then why not call for Hamas to surrender and face justice for the genocide they committed?

        Because by the dictionary and UN definitions, Israel’s actions, not Hamas’s are genocidal, and it would be silly to surrender to a group that’s made no secret of the fact that they intend to exterminate you. Should German Jews have surrendered to the Nazis? Maybe Ukraine to Russia? If not, what’s the difference?

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          10 months ago

          Do you really not know what Hamas did on October 7?

          Explain to me how what you’re doing right now is different from holocaust denial.

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            10 months ago

            I’m well aware of what happened on October 7th. It’s not Holocaust denial because I’m not denying the Holocaust - it happened and was terrible - I’m fighting against similar things happening again.

            I’ll ask again.

            Should German Jews have surrendered to the Nazis in World War 2, should Ukraine surrender to Russia, and if not, why not?

            The reason you can’t answer this that you sole principle is the defence of Israel - you’re denying a genocide (by both the dictionary and UN definitions I use), while inventing one (by the same definition). This is also why you can’t define genocide. When you have a definition to point to and coherent principles like I do, it’s easy - none of them should surrender - the far greater power they’d surrender to have the only real ability to stop the conflict, and surrender would just see them exterminated anyway.

            It’s your turn to answer those questions, Jitler.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        Then why not call for Hamas to surrender and face justice for the genocide they committed? That’s what started this war.

        Got it. That’s what justifies Israel killing over 10,000 children. What Hamas hasn’t done.

        I have no idea why the U.S. didn’t just nuke Kabul after 9/11, frankly. I mean after what Osama did, it would have been totally justified, right?