Just Stop Oil aren’t coming with a message, they’re coming with a demand. A very simple one that the science and international bodies are clear on.
They’ve had hundreds of media appearances, are regularly referenced by politicians and have hundreds of people getting involved (and often arrested).
In the short time they’ve been going they’ve achieved more than any orgs like Greenpeace etc.
“This is not activism, this is passivism”
What a joke. Putting your body on the line, getting a criminal record is passivism? Do tell us what activism you’re doing if that isn’t.
“when you fly to the maldives on vacation right afterwards”
Been hooked in by the right wing media good and proper.
redox reactions involve large amounts of energy being converted. These reactions can be made to happen at a very high rate. Two options for this would be to increase contact area between reductant and oxidizer, usually environmental oxygen, by grinding the reductant into a fine powder or you increase the temperature, as a rule of thumb, an increase in 10K (=10°C) is said to increase the reaction time by a factor of two. A good way to increase temperature is to confine gases inside a solid container, like a metal pipe, since a gas’ temperature is inversely proportional to its volume.
You have to ask yourself what kind of person you are to turn against the “cause” of preventing societal collapse because you got inconvenienced for 10 minutes.
it’s not about convincing anyone anymore. we’re well beyond that point. those who are not convinced can get fucked now. we need drastic action and it’s not happening. disrupting the function of society to demand change is effective.
No, it is activism. It actively draws more attention to these causes, because attention drawing things like gluing yourself to a road attract the media to report on it. Sadly, if everyone just passively protests, it is not enough anymore.
Also, gluing yourself to the road that keeps the machines contributing to global warming from running on it is kind of the point.
Being nice doesn’t work anymore. The world is actively burning. If anything, activists should be even more pissed than this, and angry at their leaders/elders for denying global warming.
Oh you find it annoying. Well, let me tell you a surefire way to step them from blocking the streets: just take proper steps to prevent co2 imission. Or you can cry about it on lemmy I suppose.
Gluing yourself to roads (and damaging pieces of art) is the pinnacle of useless or even counterproductive activism.
You annoy everybody including those who agree with you. With a message that is new to nobody.
You bring no new argument or information to the table that could possibly convince those who don’t agree with you.
You are literally sitting around doing nothing.
This is not activism, this is passivism.
It also does not help, when you fly to the maldives on vacation right afterwards or do other similar schizo things.
What do you want them to do instead?
Just Stop Oil aren’t coming with a message, they’re coming with a demand. A very simple one that the science and international bodies are clear on.
They’ve had hundreds of media appearances, are regularly referenced by politicians and have hundreds of people getting involved (and often arrested).
In the short time they’ve been going they’ve achieved more than any orgs like Greenpeace etc.
“This is not activism, this is passivism” What a joke. Putting your body on the line, getting a criminal record is passivism? Do tell us what activism you’re doing if that isn’t.
“when you fly to the maldives on vacation right afterwards” Been hooked in by the right wing media good and proper.
No artwork was harmed.
redox reactions involve large amounts of energy being converted. These reactions can be made to happen at a very high rate. Two options for this would be to increase contact area between reductant and oxidizer, usually environmental oxygen, by grinding the reductant into a fine powder or you increase the temperature, as a rule of thumb, an increase in 10K (=10°C) is said to increase the reaction time by a factor of two. A good way to increase temperature is to confine gases inside a solid container, like a metal pipe, since a gas’ temperature is inversely proportional to its volume.
People in my social circle defending stuff like this will say “it was worth it for the attention it got” and that’s that. No further inquiry needed.
At that point you have to ask “Who didn’t know about Climate Change, and what did they learn by being made late for work?”
Which is insane, people will turn against the cause instead of joining it.
You have to ask yourself what kind of person you are to turn against the “cause” of preventing societal collapse because you got inconvenienced for 10 minutes.
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You have to ask yourself how you’ll ever convince people to join your cause when you’re being a dick to that specific person.
Which makes it being funded by the Getty Oil heiress more disturbing.
it’s not about convincing anyone anymore. we’re well beyond that point. those who are not convinced can get fucked now. we need drastic action and it’s not happening. disrupting the function of society to demand change is effective.
No it’s not. At least not at that small of a scale.
No, it is activism. It actively draws more attention to these causes, because attention drawing things like gluing yourself to a road attract the media to report on it. Sadly, if everyone just passively protests, it is not enough anymore.
Also, gluing yourself to the road that keeps the machines contributing to global warming from running on it is kind of the point.
Being nice doesn’t work anymore. The world is actively burning. If anything, activists should be even more pissed than this, and angry at their leaders/elders for denying global warming.
“We need to raise awareness about this thing everyone is already incredibly aware of!”
How?
“Hm… How about something that’s low enough stakes people can continue to ignore us, but also in a way that will make people hate us!”
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Oh you find it annoying. Well, let me tell you a surefire way to step them from blocking the streets: just take proper steps to prevent co2 imission. Or you can cry about it on lemmy I suppose.