Yes! It’s called Jevons paradox

Sync, probably

Taking care of yourself is so important, lots of respect for that. And you are totally right, it’s okay (vital in fact!) to take breaks, to get away from it all. I apologise, I’ve seen too many online comments saying something derogatory towards those trying to do what they can while clearly sitting on the sidelines. Really appreciate your thoughtful response!

“I’m not really banking on anything. I’m just surviving.” Sorry if I misunderstood but that sounds like you’re not helping?

Says a guy doing nothing? (based on below comments)

Oh look another westerner blaming population while the top 1% are responsible for double the emissions of the bottom 50%.

In the UK at least, Just Stop Oil did block oil infrastructure initially. The corporations worked with the government to use massive injunctions so people were getting huge penalties for very minimal disruption, and it never got any press coverage either.

The law protects the corporations, and the press doesn’t care unless the public or public figures are involved. That’s why they changed to public disruption.

Are we supposed to be comforted about the timeline being decades? That’s generations alive today.

Scientists are also finding their estimates getting outpaced alarmingly often right now.

The Russia Ukraine war has disrupted civilisation quite significantly with 6 million refugees. We could see over 1 BILLION climate refugees by 2050. 1000 MILLION people having to leave their homes.

We are on course for significant disruption to food supply before 1.5C warming. Doesn’t matter how rich your country is, with global food supplies low and that maybe people on the move, civilisation as we know it will change significantly. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/aug/12/global-heating-likely-to-hit-world-food-supply-faster-than-expected-says-united-nations-desertification-expert

To be clear: I am not a doomerist. Don’t dwell on this and do nothing. Get angry! This is being done to you. This was not inevitable, it was the decisions of the most powerful and richest people in the world. Get out there and take action, the movement needs you.

Off you go, go do it then. Maybe don’t leave it to someone else.

You have to ask yourself what kind of person you are to turn against the “cause” of preventing societal collapse because you got inconvenienced for 10 minutes.

What do you want them to do instead?

Just Stop Oil aren’t coming with a message, they’re coming with a demand. A very simple one that the science and international bodies are clear on.

They’ve had hundreds of media appearances, are regularly referenced by politicians and have hundreds of people getting involved (and often arrested).

In the short time they’ve been going they’ve achieved more than any orgs like Greenpeace etc.

“This is not activism, this is passivism” What a joke. Putting your body on the line, getting a criminal record is passivism? Do tell us what activism you’re doing if that isn’t.

“when you fly to the maldives on vacation right afterwards” Been hooked in by the right wing media good and proper.

No artwork was harmed.

What world are you living on? Most of silicon valley use Mac. Most the professions you listed DO use Mac. Since Apple silicon, performance for price ratio beats most Windows options for most people.

Except they’re not. They’re excellent products and since Apple silicon are actually half decent value in some cases.

Not really true, the evidence shows the popularity of the group may go down but concern over the issue goes up.

Tell us a better way that hasn’t already been tried, one that’s proportional to the urgency. Genuinely open to ideas.

The suffragettes were more than annoying, they blew stuff up and burnt down buildings and they were effective.

Lol “water exists so how can a nuclear power plant possibly not get it”. Who’s the dense one here.

For anyone annoyed by climate activists: wake the hell up. LISTEN to the message.

We are on course for an UNLIVABLE FUTURE. A BILLION climate refugees, mass crop failures, cities under water, temperatures too hot for human survival. Economic and societal collapse.

These disruptions damage nothing and inconvenience a small amount of people for 5-30 minutes. It’s not a big deal. In a world of reactionary social media and news, these are the tactics that get attention. It is not the activist’s fault for how the media reports it.

This is not “their cause”. This is the fight for everything we know and love.

If you don’t like what they’re doing, start doing what you think works.

If and when protests turn violent because people are desperate and there’s nothing else left you’ll realise how innocuous these types of protests are. They hurt nobody, disrupt people for a very short time and get the message out there.

This idea that it’s funded by big oil is just ridiculous. I am in activism and I know people from JSO, they are some of the kindest and caring people you could meet. They understand the urgency of the crisis and are willing to their bodies and freedom on the line to get the message out. Being popular is not their goal, they get people talking and that is undeniable.

I know nuclear power plants need vast amounts of water pumped around them to keep them cool. If the worst of the climate models come true (which is likely as it stands) and we have mass civil unrest, there’s no guarantee water and power will flow to them.

It’s an unnecessary risk, we have other options.

Idk about you but in a world where collapse is a distinct possibility, I’d rather not have a bunch of nuclear facilities just hanging around.