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    If you think that that what “antisemitism” complains are about, then you are clearly in some kind of distorted reality.

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      I haven’t seen antisemitic comments anywhere, but maybe they just get deleted.

      Unless you think being anti-Israel is antisemitic? But if that were so, being anti-Russia would be anti-christian and being anti-Saudi would be Islamophobic, etc. I don’t think so. Some nation states are horrible and the only logical response is to be “against them” in their current configuration. (For example, since only 8% of the world’s countries are full democracies, you can assume I’m against the others.) If Saudi or Israel changed their ways, then I would be “for them” whatever that means. Keep in mind, countries are made up nonsense anyway, so we can only criticize their organization and administration.

      Lastly, religion is a hideous evil. Perhaps this accurate observation itself is considered somehow antisemitic. Not sure.

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        Interestingly enough, the Palestinian people are actually a semitic race. So I’d argue the most antisemitic people on earth are the Israelis.

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        I don’t think we are talking about lemmy or kbin. It is about universities and resent protests and crackdown on those protests.

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          Please share amy evidence you have of actual anti-Semitism. But it has LONG been a play of the Israeli government to claim that anti criticism of Israel is anti-Semitism, which is absolutely ridiculous.

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          Then why did all those faculty at Columbia walk out in solidarity? They all support violence in their schools? It’s almost as if we’re being fed bullshit and lies.

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            How percentage of faculty who protested removal of the tents by police has any relationship or relevance to antisemitism on the same campus?

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              You further antisemtic propaganda. Jewish students are an integral part to the protests. Jewish faculty supports the protests. You claim them to be antisemitic and support the police beating up and arresting peaceful Jewish students.

              You support violence against Jews, because they don’t share your political ideology.

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                  Yeah totally. And your comment (quoted here verbatim) totally makes sense:

                  How percentage of faculty who protested removal of the tents by police has any relationship or relevance to antisemitism on the same campus?

                  This is how your comment reads:

                  Have you ever been so far even as decided to use go want to look more like?

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      It’s exactly what it’s about. Criticism of Israel is included in the official definition of Anti-Semitism in many countries and organizations.

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        Which leads to the crazy situation of jews for peace being called antisemitic

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          You don’t but the big news outlet and governments live by them. If their booklet says X is antisemitism then they’re going to respond as if it is. Regardless of reality.

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        Of course, and rightly so. But calls like “from the river to the sea” are not criticism of Israel, but a call for genocide. That’s as antisemitic as it can get. Violation of safety of Jewish student (not Israeli, but Americans with Jewish religion) also has zero relationship with Israeli criticism and 100% relationship with antisemitism.

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          Thank you for confirming that the Zionists are genocidal fascists. Because they invented this term and they mean it in the way of annihilating the Palestinian people, to fulfill they Lebensraum fascist dream.

          But how do the Palestinians use it? “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”. They demand an end to their opression and occupation by the fascists.

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            The Israeli version is

            “Between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.”

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          So you’re saying that Netanyahu’s son is “calling for genocide” and “as antisemite as it can get”, given that he used those exact words in a post back in December.

          In fact the White House spokesperson was confronted with this back then in a Press Conference because the White House was using exactly the same propaganda technique as you of claiming calls for freedom in Palestine were “antisemitism”.

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          Yeah, I haven’t heard these students say that. Have you? Stop making up bullshit.

          I have heard officials in Israel use almost that exact wording though…

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      Yeah, the “antisemitism” complains are because of antizionism, and stupid people regularly conflate antizionism (criticism of Israel) with antisemitism (attacking jewish people or judaism.

      Speaking of stupid people, Israel and the right are going hard to the paint to make this very same conflation.