• ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    hm. lemme take a look: usa has strongest tank but poor people and is always at war.

    switzerland has shit tank but rich people and is never at war.

    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      had.

      and they’ve got defense in depth. artillery covers every inch. Every Swiss man is required to serve in the military or in the alternative civilian service. I suspect they’ll be fine.

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        5 months ago

        We won’t. We are only safe because we are surrounded by strong friends. Or armed forces are a joke.

        Sauce: am Swiss, did military service.

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          5 months ago

          Oh I hadn’t heard they removed THE ALPS.

          wait, they haven’t?

          then you still have tons of defense in depth bud. Trading space for time while enemies struggle to overcome MOUNTAINS because you bright lights popped the tunnel entrances gives you time to prep other shit.

          sauce: They’re still there, right, the Alps? they didn’t go away?

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            5 months ago

            This works well against a WWII level enemy, like the fascists in the shithole to the east of Ukraine. Against a modern enemy with USA level technology it won’t hold a week, because the alpine bunkers are built to withstand WWII artillery, not modern missiles and stuff.

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              5 months ago

              Oh I forgot you retired your air force. Those F18s would have helped. And your ADA, what with patriot missile batteries, yeah those all sucked good thing you got rid of it.

              pffffttt…

              mate, I get it, you’re prior service <something> from switzerland; I don’t think you understand how under/unequipped some countries actually are. And you’ve got generations of potential defenders who are basic trained and ready to be called up. It’s hard to find much credibility in your premise.

            • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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              5 months ago

              Yeah, I expect mountains are good defensive terrain even with modern technology, but they don’t make you invincible. I don’t know what the other guy is going on about.

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      5 months ago

      It’s almost like there’s a middle ground somewhere that they keep swerving around.