• takeda@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    The media is being paid to just hamper this. Isn’t it strange that no one cares about trump viabiity for the office?

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      6 months ago

      I’m concerned about both Biden and Trump viability in office, as many people are…just because you complain about Biden doesn’t mean you support Trump.

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        6 months ago

        just because you complain about Biden doesn’t mean you support Trump.

        No centrist will ever understand this.

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        6 months ago

        From this interview it looks like his motor skills are slow but he is functioning fine.

        This whole thing was astroturfed, because trump knows Biden could get some Republicans voting for him. If it wasn’t, we would see similar requests for trump to stop down, but there are crickets, why?

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          Well, sure some things may look fine now, but when people.get that old it only takes one thing to throw them.off the rails.

          Both Biden and Trump are at risk of the same thing because they are both old as fuck.

          President is a 4 year job commitment.

          When my grandpa was 86 he was perfectly healthy and gardening outdoors and doing living independently in his 2 storey house.

          By the time he was 90 he was practically in a wheelchair and confined to one level of his house and unable to go outside to his backyard.

          My grandma was at that point from 64-68

          People over 55 should not be allowed to run for president.

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      6 months ago

      Trump’s cognitive deficiencies are old news, whereas the Biden we’re seeing now is unrecognizable from the last campaign. Given the narrow margin Biden won by last time, that should be concerning to his supporters. You really think this is a media conspiracy?

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        It’s not. Democrats right now would vote for Biden if he was in a coma. We had the “luxury” of experiencing how each of them run the country.

        Biden, unlike other potential democratic candidates is more likely to have some non trump Republicans voting for him.

        The fact that media is only talking about Biden without urging trump to step down shows me the whole thing is astroturfed.

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          This is about the most incorrect analysis I can imagine.

          Democrats right now would vote for Biden if he was in a coma

          You would. But this core contingent of “vote blue no matter who” people is not large enough to win in the general.

          Biden, unlike other potential democratic candidates is more likely to have some non trump Republicans voting for him.

          Biden represents the same thing the Democrats have been offering for decades. Anyone who’s a Republican has already seen people like Biden and said, “No thanks, not interested.” Yeah he’s a centrist, but he doesn’t cut across party lines because he doesn’t bring anything new or different to the table.

          The fact that media is only talking about Biden without urging trump to step down shows me the whole thing is astroturfed.

          This is an absurd conspiracy theory. There have been plenty of high level Democrats calling for him to resign, as well as a significant number of Democratic voters. His debate performance raised concerns about his mental competency that everyone who isn’t self-deluding can see.

          It’s completely meaningless to call for your enemy to step down. Why on earth would Trump listen to Democrats and liberal media outlets telling him to step down? What you’re suggesting is stupid and pointless, it accomplishes nothing and serves only to justify your conspiracy theory.

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          6 months ago

          Democrats right now would vote for Biden if he was in a coma

          Not like the Republican is an existential threat to American democracy or anything, we can just half ass it…

          /s

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      6 months ago

      Anyone seriously debating about Biden’s viability already knows Trump would be an awful fucking candidate.

      This is like debating the merits of katana vs long words and then wondering why nobody is talking about longbows.

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      What’s funny about this is I remember critics saying to give Trump less attention in the news.

      The problem is of course the fact that we’ve covered all his scandals from grab her by the pussy to January 6th and his criminal conviction. Newsflash: it doesn’t matter.

      So time to try something different.

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        It does matter, because we have two old people running for the office, and one of them is a convicted felon that should also be in prison.

        We won’t be much better if we force Biden out. There isn’t anyone that would be a clear and obvious choice.

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          Your argument is based on the wishful thinking that the citizenry is rational, informed, and not apathetic. This belief is within the context of there NOT being a massive right-wing propaganda machine that clearly controls the vast majority of the narrative in this country.

          Like no shit we all know Trump is bad. Hello? He’s been saying this shit and doing TERRIBLE things for over 8 years now.

          The problem is that for whatever reason, none of this shit is sticking, even when the media covers things like January 6th hearings, his criminal indictments, his impeachments, etc…

          So while Biden’s numbers continue to decline and Trump widens his lead, are you REALLY going to sit there and say, “hey guys don’t worry, just one more scandal and this time we got him!”?

          So naturally since the cult isn’t changing, we must change ourselves to improve our odds.

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          We won’t be much better if we force Biden out.

          But we will be better.

          There isn’t anyone that would be a clear and obvious choice.

          The party doesn’t nurture new talent because they’re scared of moving to the left. Guess we gotta stick with the guy who party leadership wants no matter what!

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            They already did the primaries. Whoever they choose after Biden, it won’t be a democratic choice. That’s going to lose points no matter who they nominate. Just about the only person who could do better in the general election than Biden right now is Bernie, and he’s already said he’s too old for this and endorsed Biden.

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              They already did the primaries.

              The ones where the only candidate to appear on all the ballots was Biden? Yeah, great “primaries”. You got the candidate you want and everyone else can go to hell. Well, when he loses to Trump, you’ll be right there with me.

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      It’s really fun watching liberals devolve into MAGA-like conspiracies about the news media. Super good sign for the health of the party.