You put too much cheese in the melting pot all at once, your cheese can burn, end up poorly integrated, or end up separating.
It doesn’t really matter what culture it is, it takes time for newcomers to adapt and integrate. The greater the differences between the norm and the new, the more turbulent that integration can be.
Plus, frankly, we have enough crackpots and extremists of our own. Just letting everyone in, with no limits, you end up with even more, and that may be more than any culture can take.
Right now? We can’t take any more right wing extremists without it ending in war. Doesn’t matter where they’re from, why they’re extremists, it’s a matter of numbers. The entire damn country is closer to global center than anything else, and we’re barely hanging on to democracy.
That’s one example.
Another is religious. How many extra strict adherents can we take on without disrupting the general trend towards a kind of religious neutrality?
Religion is too big a cultural factor to just dump in large numbers to a culture without problems. It isn’t even about the given religion being good or bad of whatever, it’s about needing time to adapt to where you’re moving instead of just forming an insular and unintegrated cultural cyst.
Realistically, it doesn’t matter what the differences are, any culture can only take so much disruption at once without fragmenting entirely.
Plus, frankly, we have enough crackpots and extremists of our own. Just letting everyone in, with no limits, you end up with even more, and that may be more than any culture can take.
Strange you think “newcomers = crackpots”. All the immigrants I’ve met have been normal, sane people. Most crackpots are born citizens. It could be that letting in immigrants will dilute the ratio of crackpots.
Doesn’t matter where they’re from, why they’re extremists, it’s a matter of numbers.
I don’t really foresee ISIS allying with the KKK. Obviously it’s not ideal to have either, but they’re working against each other as much as against society.
How many extra strict adherents can we take on without disrupting the general trend towards a kind of religious neutrality?
That’s a good question. I’d be interested in any data. I could see a religious sect taking over a government (democratically) and then using their power to enforce religion. But also, again I don’t foresee different religions working together on this, and it may be that the more different religions we throw together the more they cancel themselves out - it’s harder to believe your god is the real god when you’re surrounded by other people with different gods who also believe THEIR god is the real god.
That’s just me spitballing though, like I said I don’t really have any information one way or the other.
But I came back to edit in an example I found within seconds of hitting enter.
Now, it is possible someone else hit that down arrow. But the point would still remain that someone, in about a minute or so knee jerked because they didn’t like it.
That’s just shitty. The comment was made in good faith, it was on topic, and in direct response to a question. It wasn’t offered out of nowhere.
Whether it was you, or someone else, votes as a disagree button is just lame.
I should, however, have phrased that part better so you didn’t think it was only directed at you. Looking back at it, it reads like I’m accusing you specifically of doing something. That was not actually the intent.
Is culture really that big of a problem? Especially for the US, which prides itself on being a melting pot of different cultures
sure.
You put too much cheese in the melting pot all at once, your cheese can burn, end up poorly integrated, or end up separating.
It doesn’t really matter what culture it is, it takes time for newcomers to adapt and integrate. The greater the differences between the norm and the new, the more turbulent that integration can be.
Plus, frankly, we have enough crackpots and extremists of our own. Just letting everyone in, with no limits, you end up with even more, and that may be more than any culture can take.
Right now? We can’t take any more right wing extremists without it ending in war. Doesn’t matter where they’re from, why they’re extremists, it’s a matter of numbers. The entire damn country is closer to global center than anything else, and we’re barely hanging on to democracy.
That’s one example.
Another is religious. How many extra strict adherents can we take on without disrupting the general trend towards a kind of religious neutrality?
Religion is too big a cultural factor to just dump in large numbers to a culture without problems. It isn’t even about the given religion being good or bad of whatever, it’s about needing time to adapt to where you’re moving instead of just forming an insular and unintegrated cultural cyst.
Realistically, it doesn’t matter what the differences are, any culture can only take so much disruption at once without fragmenting entirely.
Edit: a perfect example of how bad things can be, and why you don’t want large numbers coming in without integration. https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/48b6b106-78ac-4a36-8a42-9fa62afb67f2.jpeg
Also, you asked the question, I gave response. That’s how public discussion works.
…no shit? Weird passive aggressive comment out of nowhere
What country is this?
Strange you think “newcomers = crackpots”. All the immigrants I’ve met have been normal, sane people. Most crackpots are born citizens. It could be that letting in immigrants will dilute the ratio of crackpots.
I don’t really foresee ISIS allying with the KKK. Obviously it’s not ideal to have either, but they’re working against each other as much as against society.
That’s a good question. I’d be interested in any data. I could see a religious sect taking over a government (democratically) and then using their power to enforce religion. But also, again I don’t foresee different religions working together on this, and it may be that the more different religions we throw together the more they cancel themselves out - it’s harder to believe your god is the real god when you’re surrounded by other people with different gods who also believe THEIR god is the real god.
That’s just me spitballing though, like I said I don’t really have any information one way or the other.
So, you don’t like my opinion.
Fine.
It’s still what you asked for.
I don’t normally give a shit about votes.
But I came back to edit in an example I found within seconds of hitting enter.
Now, it is possible someone else hit that down arrow. But the point would still remain that someone, in about a minute or so knee jerked because they didn’t like it.
That’s just shitty. The comment was made in good faith, it was on topic, and in direct response to a question. It wasn’t offered out of nowhere.
Whether it was you, or someone else, votes as a disagree button is just lame.
I should, however, have phrased that part better so you didn’t think it was only directed at you. Looking back at it, it reads like I’m accusing you specifically of doing something. That was not actually the intent.