• Surp@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    Ugh Lemmy’s turned into the worst part of reddit faster than reddit did.

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      The community here is worse than Reddit tbh. I think people here are actually meaner and ruder than on Reddit, regardless of the “white knight” mentality here.

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        Reddit was full of bots but the people are just savvy enough to make an account. Lemmy’s users are not a general representation of the public, but more of the technical kind. You can probably describe most users just by the most popular posts and interactions here. So…

        Male Atheist Liberal In their late 20s but majority in their 30s, with a large amount of trekkies in their 40s for some reason. Pc technical, can use a pc well enough to understand above the basic concepts of the best buy laptop the general public use. Too involved in the world affairs causing rigid pessism of most people who don’t share their views. If you don’t think like us you’re one of “them”.

        Oh and anonymous keyboard warriors. Everyone can be a “professional” on a subject if they can dissect a comment someone made and Google any relevant information to refute their arguments. It’s pretty much this that makes them ruder.

  • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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    Long before Israel, Americans been sending weapons to Saudi Arabia the people who took out the twin towers, and nobody seems to care.

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      19 hours ago

      since when is Bin Laden + a couple of goons the whole people of Saudi Arabia ?

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        The international mujahadeen movement was born in Saudi Arabia; funded by Saudi Arabia; created out of a quasi death cult of islam called Wahabism founded in Saudi Arabia; bin Laden was a major figure in Saudi politics and society and from one of the richest, non-Royal families in the country; almost all the members of Al-Queda were Saudi.

        If Saudi foreign policy and money created the mujahadeen, then they are Saudi.

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        Typically, when people refer to a country by name in this manner, such as “Saudi Arabia”, they are referring to the government/ruling class of that country, not the people as a whole. The Bin Laden family had demonstrable ties to the royal family of Saudi Arabia.

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            Saudi Arabia, the people who

            Yes, in reference to “Saudi Arabia”, which refers to their government

            I added the comma for clarification, but that’s what was said

            They didn’t say “the people of Saudi Arabia did 9/11”

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    I know its a shitpost but since when is the US funding hamas / hezbollah (i assume that what the right one is) did i miss some conspiracy?

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      It’s a bit of a stretch, but Netanyahu used to allow Qatari funds through to Hamas and Qatar is home to the largest USA military base in the middle east. So the USA government spend money in Qatar and Qatar send money to Hamas, so one could argue that some USA tax money ended up with Hamas that way.

      But in the same way all economies and trade are interconnected. It’s not because my garagist gave money to his addict child, who used part of that money to buy drugs, that I’m now suddenly guilty of funding the drug trade. Money goes around.

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        In a more direct way, there is video evidence of Israeli soldiers delivering briefcases full of money to Hamas leaders. Netanyahu and his cronies want Hamas to be in charge of Palestine, because the last thing he needs is a competent and legitimate Palestinian government.

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            A quote from Netanyahu: “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas… This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas

            I already knew that Israel facilitated transfers of funds from other sources, but I didn’t know that they also did direct funding and transfers. According to that wiki article, Israel was at least certainly doing that in the 1980s and 90s. Not that it really matters, Israel soliciting other parties to give money to Hamas or Israel directly giving money to Hamas, there’s little difference really.

            I can’t find anything right away about video evidence, but I wouldn’t be surprised at this point. I’d love a source for that as well.

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        I doubt taking some food and water and tents is enough to finance the building of rockets. Those resources are more likely to come from the surrounding countries.

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          The aid sent to Gaza isn’t just food and water. It includes construction materials, machinery, all kinds of equipment, and simply money to pay salaries and buy whatever.

          Cement and steel to build houses was regularly used to build tunnels for military purposes instead. Water pipes were used to build rockets and so on.

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            Also like, food and water you acquire is food and water you don’t have to purchase or otherwise gain, meaning you can use the resources you would have used on food on military operations instead.

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            Are you suggesting that aid be stopped completely because we can’t guarantee that none of it is being used for military purposes?

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              No. The way aid gets distributed needs to change. UNRWA is part of the problem and need reform at least.

              Hamas and other extremist organizations should be removed from power. Gazans also need a political perspective towards a good and prosperous life, trade and free travel.

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      Another thing to consider is that the US typically sells weapons to Israel (with some exceptions), meaning that’s mostly not our tax dollars.