I think people don’t hate Mozilla, they want them to do better as there are not many options left if you care about privacy. It’d just be nice to not have to pick the lesser evil for once.
No they weren’t. Clearly you don’t know how this system works.
It is impossible to track anybody using this.
You are getting angry at Mozilla for making something that enables privacy, then getting angry at them again because they aren’t dictators of the web who can control everybody’s and networks.
PPA does not involve sending information about your browsing activities to anyone. This includes Mozilla and our DAP partner (ISRG). Advertisers only receive aggregate information that answers basic questions about the effectiveness of their advertising.
So, let’s say I trust in everything they are saying, which is the absolute best case scenario, then they have done nothing for privacy, because the whole premise that ad networks only care about ex-post measuring the effectiveness of their ads is false. They could have done that long before.
They want to know who you are and what you do so they can sort you in categories and show you specific ads based on those. That’s the service ad networks sell to advertisers. So, tracking as usual will continue.
You don’t need to take their word for it, it’s open source and has a lot of eyes on it.
That isn’t doing nothing for privacy. That’s absurd. It’s a private alternative. Therefore it’s a good move for privacy.
They want to know who you are and what you do so they can sort you in categories and show you specific ads based on those. That’s the service ad networks sell to advertisers. So, tracking as usual will continue.
That’s not what this is. Neither Mozilla, nor anybody else, has any data tied to you. You cannot be tracked with this.
Mozilla’s model would only “do something for privacy” if it replaced what we have today. Not if it just ran alongside the others. That’s not absurd, it’s reality.
That’s not what this is. Neither Mozilla, nor anybody else, has any data tied to you.
That’s the kind of data companies like Meta and Google (I’m sure among others I don’t know) track and use to sell ads today . That is their entire business model. And they will not stop it of their own free will for an alternative that gives them less useful data than they had before.
Mozilla’s model does nothing for privacy unless legislation forces companies to quit the current more invasive kind of tracking. But if it did that, we would have won and wouldn’t need Mozilla’s model either.
And it can’t replace what we have today if it doesn’t exist. Therefore it existing is a good thing and a positive move for privacy.
That’s the kind of data companies like Meta and Google (I’m sure among others I don’t know) track and use to sell ads today . That is their entire business model. And they will not stop it of their own free will for an alternative that gives them less useful data than they had before.
No shit.
Mozilla’s model does nothing for privacy unless legislation forces companies to quit the current more invasive kind of tracking. But if it did that, we would have won and wouldn’t need Mozilla’s model either.
Yes, as I have already stated, Mozilla should be pushing governments to enforce privacy respecting and models.
They have made a privacy respecting option, and you are angry with them because others are still hoovering up your data. It’s a dumb take.
I think people don’t hate Mozilla, they want them to do better as there are not many options left if you care about privacy. It’d just be nice to not have to pick the lesser evil for once.
And they are doing better. Making ads private is a very good thing. They’re currently a privacy nightmare.
They are not making ads private, they are adding another tracking vector. This will not get rid of the other ones already there.
No they weren’t. Clearly you don’t know how this system works.
It is impossible to track anybody using this.
You are getting angry at Mozilla for making something that enables privacy, then getting angry at them again because they aren’t dictators of the web who can control everybody’s and networks.
In their own words
So, let’s say I trust in everything they are saying, which is the absolute best case scenario, then they have done nothing for privacy, because the whole premise that ad networks only care about ex-post measuring the effectiveness of their ads is false. They could have done that long before.
They want to know who you are and what you do so they can sort you in categories and show you specific ads based on those. That’s the service ad networks sell to advertisers. So, tracking as usual will continue.
You don’t need to take their word for it, it’s open source and has a lot of eyes on it.
That isn’t doing nothing for privacy. That’s absurd. It’s a private alternative. Therefore it’s a good move for privacy.
That’s not what this is. Neither Mozilla, nor anybody else, has any data tied to you. You cannot be tracked with this.
Mozilla’s model would only “do something for privacy” if it replaced what we have today. Not if it just ran alongside the others. That’s not absurd, it’s reality.
That’s the kind of data companies like Meta and Google (I’m sure among others I don’t know) track and use to sell ads today . That is their entire business model. And they will not stop it of their own free will for an alternative that gives them less useful data than they had before.
Mozilla’s model does nothing for privacy unless legislation forces companies to quit the current more invasive kind of tracking. But if it did that, we would have won and wouldn’t need Mozilla’s model either.
And it can’t replace what we have today if it doesn’t exist. Therefore it existing is a good thing and a positive move for privacy.
No shit.
Yes, as I have already stated, Mozilla should be pushing governments to enforce privacy respecting and models.
They have made a privacy respecting option, and you are angry with them because others are still hoovering up your data. It’s a dumb take.