• geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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    The Muslims conquered land and replaced its government, they did not murder and replace their entire population. This is why countries like Somalia are filled with black people who are Muslims and not Arabs.

    Mohamed Salah has Egyptian ancestry. He is not a random Arab Muslim claiming that Egypt was Arab.

    Settler colonization and replacing everything with ‘superior white people’ is a rather modern European tradion

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      3 days ago

      To colonize doesn’t exclusively mean to murder and entirely replace a population.

      But keep on putting everything except European conquest and colonisation into perspective, you’re good at it.

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        23 hours ago

        You’re making the above poster’s point for them. Well done. It’s pretty fair to assume that Mo Salah’s ancestors were of that same land regardless of what religious or cultural identity they came from.

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          The point is that before the Arab Muslim conquest Egypt was inhabited by many different ethnic groups and was ruled by leaders of many different ethnical and cultural backgrounds.

          Its just as ignorant from Mo Salah exclusively claiming this cultural heritage as it is from the Brits, period.

          Its the same if I was immigrating to Paris this year and 500 years from now my family claims the creation of the Eifel Tower.

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        There’s a difference between colonialism and conquest. Conquest was much much more common in the past than colonialism. Before modern European colonialism, the only people who had made colonial efforts had been the Greeks (with small city colonies in places like Libya, for example), and the Norse, with their colonization of Greenland and their attempt to colonize what is today Newfoundland. Otherwise, the rest was conquest. There’s a significant difference between the two.

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        There are multiple forms of colonialism. The term settler colonialism’ is relatively new.

        Settler colonialism is a logic and structure of displacement by settlers, using colonial rule, over an environment for replacing it and its indigenous peoples with settlements and the society of the settlers.

        Practically every example you will find is Europeans getting on a boat and killing natives. The most famous example is Manifest Destiny also known as America.