• Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    Would a right wing US government force a capitulation? I was under the impression that support from the US was bipartisan.

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      1 month ago

      Are you kidding? Trump hates Zelensky with a burning passion, because he personally wronged him.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump–Ukraine_scandal

      The Trump–Ukraine scandal was a political scandal that arose primarily from the discovery of U.S. President Donald Trump’s attempts to coerce Ukraine into investigating his political rival Joe Biden and thus potentially damage Biden’s campaign for the 2020 Democratic Party presidential nomination.

      He’s going to screw Ukraine and offer Russia a favorable capitulation the absolute first second he can. And probably offer Russia Zelensky if he can manage it.

      The Republicans are increasingly turning anti-NATO as well.

      Oldschool Republicans lawmakers 100% support Ukraine, maybe even stronger than Democrats do. Some are still hanging around the Senate, but most are gone or retiring soon (like Mitch Mcconnell), and they’re already gone from the U.S. House and Trump’s cabinet.

      edit: Now that I think about it, Mike Johnson (The US House speaker) did make a suprise decision in support of Ukraine and in defiance of his own party, but his position as speaker is extremely precarious. I don’t think that will happen again.

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        1 month ago

        Not kidding, just a foreigner. I assumed it was bipartisan given America’s hatred for Russia over the past few decades. Didn’t realize Trump was so bully for em. I knew about the whole “he’s a Russian not” conspiracy but given that seemed to be false I assumed it was more accepted by both sides that Ukraine should have aid.

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          We didn’t hate Russia.

          We didn’t care.

          Do you hate a rat you saw once 5 years ago?

          At best we held them in quiet contempt until Crimea, then 2022 pulled the contempt to the surface.

          Personally I think we need to set an example, dresden comes to mind.

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          Aplogies for being rude.

          Yeah, Trump’s fascination with strongmen is more of a personality quirk than policy, but the attitude of the Republic party has abruptly shifted from “anti Russia/China” to more universally protectionist and isolationist. If you watch Tucker Carlson (for instance), you’ll hear a lot of questioning like “why should we have to pay for all this madness overseas?” and accusations its feeding the US military industrial complex… and there’s a nugget of truth there. The oldschool Republicans have been steadily losing power, and this is kinda the tipping point.

          If Trump wins, expect to see a lot of noise about withdrawing from NATO, pulling out of large trade agreements, “abruptly” settling disputes, tarrifs. Things like that, basically the exact opposite of the old neoliberal paradigm.

          He also holds vicious grudges, something he did before he even got into politics, so that may color some foreign policy as well. If he’s acting strange towards some person in particular on the news, search for “Trump (X) controversy,” and something from before 2020 will probably come up.