what do you mean? there’s a million refillable options out there. have been for years. the popularity of disposables is mostly about convenience, habit (it’s similar to buying cigarettes), and laziness. it’s a great example of how much people just don’t give a shit. it’s actually waaaay cheaper in the long run to use a refillable one. gives a better experience with more flavor options too. but it’s maybe 5% less convenient to use. therefore only about 5% of users go for that.
i fucking hate human nature.
i have like 5 friends in trying to convince away from the disposables right now. I’m 3 years in, and may have one that would be willing to try it i bought it for him. it’s so fucking hard to change anyone’s buying habits. i don’t get why. these are all people that SAY they care about the environment. then i show them an easy to fix way that they are FUCKING INCREDIBLY AWFUL to the environment and they just shrug…
I was lucky enough to just quit the nicotine habit about a year ago
Long story short the refillable ones are more expensive and still have a pretty high failure rate with regular maintenance.
Now that being said I understand not everyone actually does the regular maintenance.
Basically people can’t afford $150 box mod to break on them and then they’re fucked.
Buying a disposable for 50$ a month ( I don’t know the real numbers or whatever I’m just guesstimating here) at least they know it’s not going to break on them before it runs out of juice
Something like that
Because I literally told my friend about the disposable they problem and she took time to explain why she used disposables.
For a lot of people it’s as simple as the best available option to continue their habit.
Shit ain’t right but it is what it is.
I’m ashamed to say by now I have bought five total of the Indi 1g disposable vapes. The marijuana oil type.
I have not thrown a single one of them away although they have long been empty. I prefer to just buy standard cartridges. Which also have a bit of waste but no lithium
I don’t think your information is quite right here. A nice (nice as in kind of the best that I’m aware of) pod style vape is about $30. A bigger box mod is under $60 for the ones I like from Vaporesso or Voopoo. Juice is let’s say liberally, $40/mo (120ml). I have been handing down vape mods for almost a dozen years. My buddy vapes a lot and he’s been using my hand-me-down vape for two years and it was 5 years old when I gave it to him. I only buy new because they get a little worn and I like the shiny screen and buttons. Absolutely all still usable. Best I can tell, disposables are about $10 for 3-4 days (according my partner who is annoyingly using disposables for “convenience”). You can get a nice mod and juice every month for the price of disposables from the real world numbers I’m seeing.
I’ve been doing the same. Koolada and extra sweetener are just the bane of my existence. I wonder if there’s an e-juice community on Lemmy… I should check.
If you find one let me know! And yeah I literally put 10 drops/60ml of Capella Super Sweet in most of my juice, recipes I see around are like “use 5% Super Sweet,” fuck THAT! I got over koolada in 2014, my body just hates it now.
Yes. But some areas banned those first, and the flavoring you put in them. Unsure about UK considering they’re the ones publishing studies that aren’t just big tobacco/pharma lobby lies like the Diacetyl bullshit, I’d think they’re largely vape friendly (but who ever let those pesky scientists get in the way of a good ban, huh?)
Yeah the UK government is largely pro vaping as a way to stop smoking, but thankfully very anti disposables and marketing to children. I don’t have much good to say about our government, but I’m with them on this.
Denmark is a bit different though. They’ve cracked down on all flavours except menthol and tobacco, and they’ve taxed it similar to cigarettes. The UK is only banning disposable vapes.
We should build some kind of a moat around the UK. If we manage that, while not full proof, I have no doubt that banning it in the UK will be easier to do than somewhere without a moat.
Correct me if I’m wrong but y’all already have a fuck-you huge moat called like The English Channel/Celtic Sea/Atlantic Ocean/North Sea or something. What you need is pungee pits outside of tobacco shoppes.
Also, an okay-ish self depicting gag is often a good off ramp, if there’s no genuine ill will between people. I usually take them, as it keeps things light.
Not being horrible. I just wish someone had told me stuff like that. I’m not saying you’re young. Im just saying, I have too many grey hairs for your mom jokes.
But, If it makes you feel any better, I wish I wasn’t too old for them too.
Is that not already a thing over there? Refillable tanks with replaceable coils and batteries have been a thing for over a decade in the states. They were the original vaping devices as far as I know. Then companies started making this “disposable” crap.
The OG was Blu, credit where credit is due. But the mods we know today started as modified flashlights with 18650 batteries, then out came the regulated box mods ala sigelei 150 (my heart, I miss you so), then out came the pods with Smok and suorin drop types, and with them came nicsalts instead of freebase, now we’re here!
They will be imported as crazy.
Denmark already banned it, but they are everywhere. Literally everywhere. It might be the biggest “black market” right now for anything really.
They need refillable ones. Chargeable. It needs to be a product you buy, and they have it for a loooong time, only to buy more fluid.
You can’t stop it by banning it, and it’s better than smoking, so please just give us the eco friendly alternative.
what do you mean? there’s a million refillable options out there. have been for years. the popularity of disposables is mostly about convenience, habit (it’s similar to buying cigarettes), and laziness. it’s a great example of how much people just don’t give a shit. it’s actually waaaay cheaper in the long run to use a refillable one. gives a better experience with more flavor options too. but it’s maybe 5% less convenient to use. therefore only about 5% of users go for that.
i fucking hate human nature.
i have like 5 friends in trying to convince away from the disposables right now. I’m 3 years in, and may have one that would be willing to try it i bought it for him. it’s so fucking hard to change anyone’s buying habits. i don’t get why. these are all people that SAY they care about the environment. then i show them an easy to fix way that they are FUCKING INCREDIBLY AWFUL to the environment and they just shrug…
I was lucky enough to just quit the nicotine habit about a year ago
Long story short the refillable ones are more expensive and still have a pretty high failure rate with regular maintenance.
Now that being said I understand not everyone actually does the regular maintenance.
Basically people can’t afford $150 box mod to break on them and then they’re fucked.
Buying a disposable for 50$ a month ( I don’t know the real numbers or whatever I’m just guesstimating here) at least they know it’s not going to break on them before it runs out of juice
Something like that
Because I literally told my friend about the disposable they problem and she took time to explain why she used disposables.
For a lot of people it’s as simple as the best available option to continue their habit.
Shit ain’t right but it is what it is.
I’m ashamed to say by now I have bought five total of the Indi 1g disposable vapes. The marijuana oil type.
I have not thrown a single one of them away although they have long been empty. I prefer to just buy standard cartridges. Which also have a bit of waste but no lithium
I don’t think your information is quite right here. A nice (nice as in kind of the best that I’m aware of) pod style vape is about $30. A bigger box mod is under $60 for the ones I like from Vaporesso or Voopoo. Juice is let’s say liberally, $40/mo (120ml). I have been handing down vape mods for almost a dozen years. My buddy vapes a lot and he’s been using my hand-me-down vape for two years and it was 5 years old when I gave it to him. I only buy new because they get a little worn and I like the shiny screen and buttons. Absolutely all still usable. Best I can tell, disposables are about $10 for 3-4 days (according my partner who is annoyingly using disposables for “convenience”). You can get a nice mod and juice every month for the price of disposables from the real world numbers I’m seeing.
100% I was guesstimating numbers to make a point.
Your info way more valid I’m sure
Juice gets even cheaper when you brew it, I’m paying less than $3/60ml, which I guess would be less than 6/120ml if I had bottles that size.
And I can brew it without the koolada garbage every dispo comes with.
I’ve been doing the same. Koolada and extra sweetener are just the bane of my existence. I wonder if there’s an e-juice community on Lemmy… I should check.
If you find one let me know! And yeah I literally put 10 drops/60ml of Capella Super Sweet in most of my juice, recipes I see around are like “use 5% Super Sweet,” fuck THAT! I got over koolada in 2014, my body just hates it now.
Just quit then, millions have. I have more respect for people still smoking cigarettes tbqh.
As I mentioned I really don’t use nicotine at all anymore
I have a couple of marijuana THC Vapes
I feel like I mentioned that pretty specifically
Haven’t rechargeable ones been available way longer than disposable ones?
Yes. But some areas banned those first, and the flavoring you put in them. Unsure about UK considering they’re the ones publishing studies that aren’t just big tobacco/pharma lobby lies like the Diacetyl bullshit, I’d think they’re largely vape friendly (but who ever let those pesky scientists get in the way of a good ban, huh?)
Yeah the UK government is largely pro vaping as a way to stop smoking, but thankfully very anti disposables and marketing to children. I don’t have much good to say about our government, but I’m with them on this.
Denmark is a bit different though. They’ve cracked down on all flavours except menthol and tobacco, and they’ve taxed it similar to cigarettes. The UK is only banning disposable vapes.
You’ve got the eco friendly alternative.
What do you think people were vaping with before the disposable vapes?
They vaped with vapes with taste. That’s the only appeal for disposable ones.
They banned taste in Denmark, so it has to taste like tobacco. That’s why they import disposable now. It’s incredibly stupid.
We should build some kind of a moat around the UK. If we manage that, while not full proof, I have no doubt that banning it in the UK will be easier to do than somewhere without a moat.
Correct me if I’m wrong but y’all already have a fuck-you huge moat called like The English Channel/Celtic Sea/Atlantic Ocean/North Sea or something. What you need is pungee pits outside of tobacco shoppes.
Oh, is that what that thing was? I wondered why i kept getting wet.
Well that may be the endless rain if you’re in London of course.
Jokes on you. I’m wet from both.
Well I’m wet from your mom, so there!
(Sorry lol I couldn’t resist, it was tee’d up so perfectly.)
Imo, you deserved better than that.
Also, an okay-ish self depicting gag is often a good off ramp, if there’s no genuine ill will between people. I usually take them, as it keeps things light.
Not being horrible. I just wish someone had told me stuff like that. I’m not saying you’re young. Im just saying, I have too many grey hairs for your mom jokes.
But, If it makes you feel any better, I wish I wasn’t too old for them too.
You’re never too old for your mom jokes, it’s just that you go from accusing their mom of being a cougar to accusing yourself of being one
Is that not already a thing over there? Refillable tanks with replaceable coils and batteries have been a thing for over a decade in the states. They were the original vaping devices as far as I know. Then companies started making this “disposable” crap.
The OG was Blu, credit where credit is due. But the mods we know today started as modified flashlights with 18650 batteries, then out came the regulated box mods ala sigelei 150 (my heart, I miss you so), then out came the pods with Smok and suorin drop types, and with them came nicsalts instead of freebase, now we’re here!
I’ve been vaping since like 2012 lol.