Yorke was playing a show in Melbourne, Australia, as part of a solo tour when, according to multiple videos recorded by concertgoers, a man yelled: “Do you condemn the Israeli genocide of Gaza? Already 200,000 dead, half of them children.”
Yorke could have just said “yes”, but instead he decided to get shirty with the man and then walk off stage.
People in this thread are saying that playing shows in Israel doesn’t mean that he supports the actions of the Israeli government. But what does it mean when he refuses to condemn the genocide?
Occam’s razor doesn’t really apply here… You can’t use that to just assert that he supports Israel. Besides, he later did say that he doesn’t support Israel.
Honestly, I can understand the response. He’s in the middle of a set and someone starts yelling about some political issue… Fuck that, he’s here to play a concert. And you know what, I wouldn’t want to be backed into making any political statement out of the blue, while on stage.
Ok, so let’s say you’re a performer and from time to time people yell something at you while you’re on stage. Given the context, let’s divide all comments into two categories.
Commentary on your performance. These could be statements like “wwooooooo!”, “you suck!”, “I love you!”, “get off the stage!” or “play free bird”.
Other bullshit. This includes any comments not about your music or the performance currently in progress. Basically anything off topic or not covered by category 1.
If someone yelled “do you support genocide?”, what category would you put that in?
Now once you’ve answered that question, I want you to remember that your answer doesn’t actually matter at all either way. Because in the end, a performer on stage is never obligated to respond to anything yelled at them from the floor.
But you’re right I guess, “political issue” was the wrong way to frame it. I should have said “other bullshit” (as laid out above).
No actually, I don’t like Thom Yorke. My problem was with a dumb comment trying to sound logical by throwing fancy words around.
If you want to use Occam’s razor in this situation, (a pretty inappropriate situation, because who can truly know what others are thinking or feeling) then I’ll show you how that works…
Occam’s razor: He walked off because he was in a bad mood and didn’t really feel like playing that show in the first place. The crowd comment seemed like a good enough excuse to walk off. That is probably the simplest solution.
Yorke could have just said “yes”, but instead he decided to get shirty with the man and then walk off stage.
People in this thread are saying that playing shows in Israel doesn’t mean that he supports the actions of the Israeli government. But what does it mean when he refuses to condemn the genocide?
Ockham’s razor: He supports Israel.
Occam’s razor doesn’t really apply here… You can’t use that to just assert that he supports Israel. Besides, he later did say that he doesn’t support Israel.
Honestly, I can understand the response. He’s in the middle of a set and someone starts yelling about some political issue… Fuck that, he’s here to play a concert. And you know what, I wouldn’t want to be backed into making any political statement out of the blue, while on stage.
Some political issue…? That’s what the genocide is to you?
Ok, so let’s say you’re a performer and from time to time people yell something at you while you’re on stage. Given the context, let’s divide all comments into two categories.
Commentary on your performance. These could be statements like “wwooooooo!”, “you suck!”, “I love you!”, “get off the stage!” or “play free bird”.
Other bullshit. This includes any comments not about your music or the performance currently in progress. Basically anything off topic or not covered by category 1.
If someone yelled “do you support genocide?”, what category would you put that in?
Now once you’ve answered that question, I want you to remember that your answer doesn’t actually matter at all either way. Because in the end, a performer on stage is never obligated to respond to anything yelled at them from the floor.
But you’re right I guess, “political issue” was the wrong way to frame it. I should have said “other bullshit” (as laid out above).
Well, maybe I am more sensitive to such a matter because of being Russian.
Why? Because you like his music?
Haven’t we all been through this with Morrissey?
Even today, any thread about Morrissey will have a few comments about how maybe he isn’t really that racist, despite the now decades of evidence.
Ockham’s razor.
No actually, I don’t like Thom Yorke. My problem was with a dumb comment trying to sound logical by throwing fancy words around.
If you want to use Occam’s razor in this situation, (a pretty inappropriate situation, because who can truly know what others are thinking or feeling) then I’ll show you how that works…
Occam’s razor: He walked off because he was in a bad mood and didn’t really feel like playing that show in the first place. The crowd comment seemed like a good enough excuse to walk off. That is probably the simplest solution.
Asserting he’s a fan in a attempt to discredit and bringing up someone else that has nothing to do with the this. Lmao
I didn’t assert it. I asked. There was a question mark.
It was an accusation.
It was a question.
It was both. It was a rhetorical question, which are technically questions while being functionally statements.
It’s worth noting though, arguing this semantic point doesn’t change anything or win any argument, it’s just pedantic.
It wasn’t rhetorical.