The administration claimed that blocking arms transfers would embolden Hamas — ignoring Israel’s genocidal slaughter.

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    What hostages? Does anyone really think there are any left alive and not either killed by Israeli bombs, starvation or straight up knifed by hamas out of anger/frustration/convenience?

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      I mean I’m inclined to believe so, given both hamas and Israel claim it’s the case

      Hamas are incentivised to not kill them arbitrarily (or put them at risk of being killed in Israeli strikes) because it’s their primary bargaining chip, and Israel are incentivised to avoid targeting them for political reasons

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        Yeah but you’ll notice the first two methods of hostage death I mentioned would not require Israel to have targeted them, but would be natural outcomes for how they are conducting their military actions.

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          Sure, but you’ll notice I explicitly referenced that when I said hamas is incentivised to minimise risk of them being hit by Israeli strikes, especially by keeping them separately in members’ homes and in tunnels. The same goes for starvation, in that, if at all possible, hamas actively wants to keep them fed enough to survive, where that isn’t at the cost of starving to death themselves.

          You’re right that some/many (maybe even most, I have no data wrt specific numbers) of the hostages have, and will continue to die due to Israel’s actions, but that’s significantly different from your initial claim of “every single hostage is dead”

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          Yep. “Oopsie, our operations `inadvertently’ created some more martyrs for the cause. well, time to keep bombing more babies”

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            Yeah dude really not looking forward to the next round of Isis or whatever in 10 years when these kids grow up and get pissed off about not having any family members left. And everyone conveniently forgets that they we’re raised by the IOF and are not just bad hombres or whatever