Ah yes, the U.S. and China, the only two countries in the world, or at least the only two with social media platforms.
(Please don’t pay attention to the fact that you’re using a website for social interactions with a server in the Netherlands or this would be an issue for you.)
It’s still obviously better to use privacy preserving and/or federated services, but that’s not something most people know about or understand.
It is perfectly reasonable for people to not know about niche options and understand complex technologies like federated networks. Different people have different interests. I am sure the two of us are making decisions that seem stupid to other people daily, whether choosing bad toothpaste, unrepaiarable washing machines, agreeing to predatory TOS or whatever else. Everyone can’t be expert on everything.
So the choice most people see is use another Chinese app or use the other large social media, which are basically all US based. And between those two options, the Chinese apps are not that unreasonable.
Or maybe both are unreasonable and neither should be tolerated and maybe rather than defend people making either choice, you should be working (like I do all the time) to get them over to the Fediverse.
Because, again, they do not have to choose either and you are excusing them being idiots.
Or maybe both are unreasonable and neither should be tolerated
Yeah, I am not going to go dictate what other peoples entertainment choices are tolerated. Excuse me from that.
you should be working (like I do all the time) to get them over to the Fediverse.
Putting aside your incorrect assumption I don’t bring people I know over when it is appropriate. Why exactly should I do that? Are you under the impression there isn’t any propaganda on Lemmy and the wider feddiverse?
My time would be better spent getting people educated on how to think critically and find information properly.
You cannot find information properly on those websites, American or Chinese, and if you were a critical thinker, you wouldn’t use them.
Also, if someone says “racism should not be tolerated,” do you tell them that you’re not going to dictate what other people’s beliefs are too? Because “should not be tolerated” generally means “everyone needs to wake the fuck up and realize what’s going on” and not “people should be forced to do something.”
You cannot find information properly on those websites, American or Chinese, and if you were a critical thinker, you wouldn’t use them.
I don’t use any social media besides Lemmy when I get bored. Getting important information from any social media including fediverse is dumb, that is why I call it entertainment.
Also, if someone says “racism should not be tolerated,” do you tell them that you’re not going to dictate what other people’s beliefs are too?
And here goes the patented, “you disagree with me so you must be racist” argument.
I am not saying it is ok. I am saying it is not a factor when choosing between Chinese and US based social media.
Ah yes, the U.S. and China, the only two countries in the world, or at least the only two with social media platforms.
(Please don’t pay attention to the fact that you’re using a website for social interactions with a server in the Netherlands or this would be an issue for you.)
What are you even talking about?
You:
Me:
You don’t have to choose either. You are choosing neither right now by being on Lemmy.
It is perfectly reasonable for people to not know about niche options and understand complex technologies like federated networks. Different people have different interests. I am sure the two of us are making decisions that seem stupid to other people daily, whether choosing bad toothpaste, unrepaiarable washing machines, agreeing to predatory TOS or whatever else. Everyone can’t be expert on everything.
So the choice most people see is use another Chinese app or use the other large social media, which are basically all US based. And between those two options, the Chinese apps are not that unreasonable.
Or maybe both are unreasonable and neither should be tolerated and maybe rather than defend people making either choice, you should be working (like I do all the time) to get them over to the Fediverse.
Because, again, they do not have to choose either and you are excusing them being idiots.
Yeah, I am not going to go dictate what other peoples entertainment choices are tolerated. Excuse me from that.
Putting aside your incorrect assumption I don’t bring people I know over when it is appropriate. Why exactly should I do that? Are you under the impression there isn’t any propaganda on Lemmy and the wider feddiverse?
My time would be better spent getting people educated on how to think critically and find information properly.
You cannot find information properly on those websites, American or Chinese, and if you were a critical thinker, you wouldn’t use them.
Also, if someone says “racism should not be tolerated,” do you tell them that you’re not going to dictate what other people’s beliefs are too? Because “should not be tolerated” generally means “everyone needs to wake the fuck up and realize what’s going on” and not “people should be forced to do something.”
I’m not sure why you don’t realize that.
Again making weird assumptions.
I don’t use any social media besides Lemmy when I get bored. Getting important information from any social media including fediverse is dumb, that is why I call it entertainment.
And here goes the patented, “you disagree with me so you must be racist” argument.