• atomkarinca@lemmygrad.ml
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    ok then look at the demographic between 1917~1948, you will see how the land was not bought but stolen, not from the ottomans but the british.

    when you illegally occupy a land long enough, it does not make the occupation go away. its still an occupied territory.

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      Oh really? Then we’d have war everywhere. There is no place on earth that was not at some point taken by force by this or that group of people.

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      Ok, so before 1918, the Ottomans had that piece of land for about 400 years. I guess that makes a turkish claim is older, and therefore stronger, by your logic, am I right?

      Before that there was the Mamluks for 200 years, but that doesn’t seem an ethnicity that’s notable today, so let’s forget that.

      Before that, the cruzaders had that land for 200 years, I suppose that means Europe also has an older claim.

      Before that, Arabs for 400 years, so I see we’re back to their claim.

      But hold on, before that, it was Roman territory for a whopping 700 years. That’s notable. Italia has a really good claim, I’d say.

      But even before, there were the Jews there, and for close to a thousand years. So, following your logic the state Israel has all right to be there.

      Before that there also lived people, of course, but it’s hard to pinpoint those to ethnicity. Egypt was there shortly. That’s an older claim even, but not very long.

      Hmm. Are now all those people justified in killing innocents on some grounds that hasn’t been “theirs” for generations?

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        no, the ottomans were the occupiers, so thats just not my logic.

        and the same goes for the rest.

        this discussion turned into a loop, so i guess good day to you.