• _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    The rest of the Fediverse should put together a GoFundMe to buy the domain, and stick up a page with links to donate drones to Ukrainian soldiers, and care packages to families of Uyghur muslims detained in concentration camps in China.

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      If I had the money I’d buy it and replace every post with goatse.

      EDIT: wtf the insane asylum is loose. Halp

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        3 months ago

        yes let’s sexually harass all those people depending on our mutual aid comm. you’re so righteous.

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          The idea is stupid, sure, but it’s not like it’s any more sexual harassment than posting pictures of a pig’s ass repeatedly. Hexbear users (many of whom I quite like) should be used to it.

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            Yeah harassing homeless people asking for 20 bucks so they can avoid their next hypoglycemic seizure with mid 2000’s edgy shock porn explicitly for the purpose of being cruel to them IS EXACTLY THE SAME as harassing deliberate trolls acting in bad faith with a picture of an animal’s butt so they go away.

            You’re a perfectly well adjusted person who I totally wouldn’t believe hurts small animals for fun.

            Swear to god Hexbear is the best thing that’s ever happened to the internet if only because we get to see a lot of people’s real faces when they react to it.

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              Wow a single community dedicated to giving any schmuck with a sob story some pocket change. So the whole instance must be the salt of the earth which can do no wrong and have no bad takes. Gee its almost like c/mutual_aid is a defensive shield that you think protects from legitimate criticism of the rest of hexbears extremist nonesense shitposting.

              How noble, im truly moved. No, actually im not. Charity for the sake of arguing moral superiority and trying to prove a theoretical socialist system of willful wealth redistribution yet pretending its just out of goodness of hexbear users hearts is false virtue pandering.

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                I don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. All I see is you trying to justify using your excess of money to deliberately hurt people because you’re upset over some words said to you.

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                  And all I see is someone who cant formulate a coherent argument. I legitimately have no idea what you’re trying to say or imply about me, do you even know your replying to a different person than the guy above?

                  Also oof bad guess, Im currently broke as shit and live offgrid in a tent. Care to take another crack at assuming anything about my life or overall character? Speaking of doing good for those in need and my intentions, last season I volunteered at a local medical rehab helping get homeless clean off life threatening drugs and improving their quality of life by making sure they had clean rooms and basic amenities. It might not be sending 20$ anonymously to fuel a homeless persons narcotic or opioid addiction so they don’t have to get medical assistance to deal with withdraw shock or overdosing like the most caring and thoughtful hexbear donators but hey its something I guess.

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            3 months ago

            There’s a Mutual Aid comm where people in need can make a request for money or other such necessity and others can fulfil them.

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            what cowbee said, and you dorks trying to get the domain to redirect hexbear to sexually explicit or otherwise useless shit are just making it that much harder for the numerous palestinians, trans people, unhoused people, etc. who have come to rely on c/mutual_aid.

            good to know that owning the “tankies” is more important to you dweebs than letting us continue to help them. i really hope you’re proud of yourselves.

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              I think anyone trying to buy the domain and redirect it as some kind of joke is dumb and I don’t support that.

              But I’m curious how the vetting process works for c/mutual aid. How can you be sure that the money is going to people who actually need it, as opposed to people who are playing a part to garner your sympathy?

              I’ve poked around hexbear from time to time and I remember a certain Palestinian family that was receiving fairly substantial aid. That appeared fairly legit to me, although it’s still extremely difficult to be sure.

              But the people who need help with rent, or help paying their phone bill, or whatever random sob story they might come up with, I view with inherent suspicion.

              Have you ever considered that it might be a much more efficient use of your resources to actually walk around wherever you live and give food and blankets directly to the unhoused? To volunteer at a local soup kitchen or homeless shelter?

              Sending anonymous strangers money over the internet has a very large chance of going to the wrong people who are adept at manipulating others but not actually in the most need. It has a very large chance of funding self destructive behaviors of mentally ill people that ultimately drive the individual further into poverty and misery. Just something to think about.

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                It’s like giving money to the guy walking about the gas station with a story

                You’ll see that same guy again and again, and he never seems to put any gasoline in his can

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                The mutual_aid comm literally saved me from being homeless and losing my pet cats that I’ve had for 10 years.

                It has a very large chance of funding self destructive behaviors of mentally ill people that ultimately drive the individual further into poverty and misery.

                Fuck you Nancy Grace. “Don’t give that homeless man money! He’ll use it on drugs

                What’s the worse problem? Someone getting something ‘they don’t deserve’ or someone not getting something they need to live?

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                  That’s great, good for you.

                  I think drugs are great, but they can be very harmful for people who are already mentally unstable. I deal with homeless people frequently, and in many cases, abusing drugs is a major problem for them and giving them money just perpetuates a self destructive cycle that eventually ends with them dying before their time.

                  Someone not getting something they need to live is the worse problem, which is why sending your charity off into the interwebs with hopes and prayers that it has a positive impact is a very naive and lazy way of doing things. You should be making sure that it helps those who are most desperate, and the only way to ensure that is to do your giving IRL.

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                For your point on trust, hexbear users mostly just have to trust that the user is acting in good faith as there isn’t really any way to properly verify if the person is telling the truth without forcing them to reveal personal, and potentially identifiable, information. And for your point on funding destructive behaviours, if we assume that this individual is telling the truth about their situation, then you aren’t funding their drug addiction by helping them pay rent or buy food.

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                  That’s fair and I respect it, we need to have the courage to trust other people and I’m sure people have received much needed aid from that community.

                  But at the same time we have to recognize when a system is vulnerable to abuse, and consider ways to prevent that abuse from happening, or at least limit it. Sometimes, people aren’t going to tell the truth, and sometimes they may not know how to help themselves. It’s very hard to recognize those scenarios when your only context is an anonymous username on an internet forum.

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          There are only two kinds of people on Lemmy.

          • People who left Reddit to escape the verbal diarrhea that overwhelmed the site.

          • People who left Reddit to spread that diarrhea.

          sigh The @sh.itjust.works domain is full of the latter.

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            If “verbal diarrhea” is so commonplace on reddit, then it wouldn’t be necessary for people to leave Reddit in order to spread it, hmm?

            Obviously your entire premise is sheer stupidity regardless, but I just want point out that even according to your own internal logic, it still doesn’t make any sense.

  • Carl@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    New update for those of you following this story

    We have established contact with the previously-AWOL owner, and after much discussion, we have determined that while there was an error in the auto-payment initially, the renewal funds were transferred manually to Sav and the auction continues despite that. We are currently appealing to Sav support with our domain credentials. We are also looking into whether an ICANN-compliant grace period was implemented prior to the rescinding and auctioning of the domain.

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    Wow, that’s a fuck up of monumental proportions. Still 9 days left on the auction, I wonder how much it’ll ultimately sell for.

    This could be really annoying when they all make accounts on lemmy.ml. Funnily enough, having them sequestered over there and defederated from the rest of us has been working pretty well lately. Moderators and admins better start dusting off the banhammers.

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      Rent free.

      If you go to their megathread on the topic you’ll see that not only are they not bidding, they’re telling people not to bid on their behalf and go to their https://chapo.chat/c/mutual_aid comm and give the money to someone who needs it. So if you have 300+ bucks to set on fire please consider helping someone with their rent or groceries. Or on the kid from Gaza trying to raise money for a prosthetic leg. You’ll feel better than spending it on spite.

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        Please someone cover my monthly expenses (equal to the current bid) . As a commie tankie trans girl this would own me epically

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      spending hundreds of dollars on a domain to own the commies, that’s so epic chungus, take my updoot good sir

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    I am not writing this to shit on them, but I have to appreciate the irony in the situation. Something about a communist community getting messed up by lapses in individual responsibility, or an authoritarian leaning community getting messed up by fuckups in leadership.

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      Lol some hexers got salty at your comment in particular

      (your comment copied)

      shut up dork

      Ikr. Its almost like we’re a bunch of shitposters not a hyper serious org

      Its almost like some people think they’re immune to critisism as long as they can fall back on “It was just a joke/shitposting bro my five paragraph political essay followed by another five paragraphs of heated debate in the comments was just memes bro why do the libs take us seriously”. Have these people ever heard the concept of Schrodingers asshole?

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        I tried to frame it like “huh that’s funny” and not as an insult. But it’s probably inevitable that some would take offense or just downvote to disagree. No issue with them.

        I’m not a hex/MLer, but I don’t try to antagonize them either. And even if I wanted to, I’ve been here long enough to know that the dogpile was still coming, lol.

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          Good on you for trying to take the balanced center road, too many people here have tribalistic us vs them or nothing mentality.

          Me personally? I just don’t like hardcore extremist/radical people in general so im enjoying this, slight antagonism be damned.

          Anyone who thinks their group personally has the best solution to all of societies problems and human power inbalances. Or anyone who thinks that their group is the pinnacle of morality and virtue who can do no wrong. Or anyone who smugly tries to poke holes in every other competing idea or perspective while willfully downplaying valid criticism for their own tribal groups.

          I dislike arrogant idealist who think they’re better and smarter than the rest because they read a book or two on socioeconomic theory and went to a political science class in liberal arts college. I dislike self interest masquerading as false virtue and moral superiority. And yes, im talking about more than just tankies, lemmy is chock full of these same types just slight differences in the hats they wear.

          So Im getting a little bit of schadenfreude not because I care about their particular flavor of political extremism. Instead because its another group of smug pricks pushing another bullshit agenda while willfully dismissive of any inconvenient truths they dont like. Hexers just got a humorously ironic comeuppance for being the disorganized shitposters they pride themselves on being which is a big tasty cherry on top.

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            Can you go back in time and repeat this to me as a 20 year old? 😆 You’d be saving a number of people some real headaches.

            Although I will say almost all the actual card carrying commies I’ve met IRL have been wonderful.

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              Alright I can do that for you grrgyle

              You might want to sit down and take some Tylenol. From what people keep telling me, a little bit of Time Trolling™ to retroactively rewrite a persons existence can cause nausa, vomiting, and or complete erasure from all timelines in somewhat rareish cases. Lets hope you don’t end up like Jermey, the poor bastard ended up in a really kinky paradox and got Time Goatsed™ for all eternity. Well anyways don’t worry im a professional so theres almost no chance of that happening… again… huh. WELPH Here… We… GO!

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          I think too many people claim to be “anticommunist” when they really should say they are “full on fascist”.

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          The tankies are out in full force on this thread and downvoting everyone the instant they comment, so it’s not as controversial as it looks. Just a handful of butthurt authoritarians.

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      We should buy it and turnt into a Lemmy instance that’s only bears in hexagons.

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      Lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works already exist tho

      Edit: oh, you edited your comment to “anti-authoritarian” instead of “anti-tankie.” Neither Lemmy.world nor sh.itjust.works applies now.

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    This almost certainly won’t kill the Hexbear community, and frankly I don’t think there’s any way they will choose to pony up the auction money. This community has moved from reddit to discord to the fediverse and they’ll probably just be on their backup/original domain chapo.chat for a month or two before switching over to whatever the admins decide to switch to, and then it will be business as usual under a new name.

    Still there’s a lesson here about setting up a durable online community - don’t let someone control the domain registration with their personal account, you’re just asking for something like this to happen. If they don’t have one already the admins should set up some kind of organization that can “own” the new domain, donations, etc so that this can’t happen again.

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      this, exactly. That the communism site is being sold to the highest bidder is karma, just like the oppressive action of capitalism driving escapism into communism is.

      the raw reality is that neither pure communism nor pure capitalism will work. It’s like saying “top-down architecture is better than peer-to-peer architecture,” or vice-versa. it’s foolish. the right architecture depends on the situation being addressed.

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      I’d downvote you, but you’re at 9/11 upvotes/downvotes and I don’t want to ruin it

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      It’s only a problem if you don’t like having chauvinism and western state propaganda brainworms questioned. As a ND queer communist I have never felt more comfortable and welcome posting than on hexbear. Their mutual aid comm is highly active and an immensely helpful place for many people. It’s an adorable community, they get a bad rap by people that come in arguing in bad faith who then run away to shame the hateful ‘tankies’ on their main instance like this post here.