Iām 23 days into HRT and my boobs hurt and I can feel the weight and I will feel randomly euphoric
Congrats on the fat redistribution
A bonus with this is that Iāve been struggling to eat for a bit, but HRT seems to be making me hungrier, so Iāll actually eat dinner now. I also need to anyway, because of this.
Oh, I can confirm this! I went from skipping lunch almost every day to essentially never completely full. And if I skip a meal I become basically useless. Itās great!
Also congrats on already feeling weight after 23 days! My own started aching pretty much immediately (hurt for a few days), but itās gotten more annoying recently and I can actually feel/see 'em now (I hit 100 days exactly today actually!)
How do you feel? Did you already get the skin smoothing? That was the biggest QoL change for me
I mentioned in another reply that I feel generally more positive, but substances in particular have started to take a wholly different nature. Theyāve felt better in a way thatās more euphoric, of course, but thatās not what I care about in this case. More interestingly, Iāve started to physically analyse my body, and highs are starting to feel like theyāre specifically making me more self-accepting. Phantom limbs, in the form of breasts, and it feels natural.
Skin smoothing might be occurring. Iāve been feeling the tops of my cheeks, but it could be placebo. I donāt think it is. In my specific case, my skin was actually already great. People commented about it, is how it was.
Otherwise, my self view has started to shift, both in and out of altered states. The mind mattered already, thanks to my journeys, but now the body matters. I recognised my body before, of course, but now itās as if my physical self has just popped into existence, and Iām feeling myself to help me adjust.
I wasnāt dysphoric prior, but Iām euphoric now. I predicted this, which is why I started, and it turns out it was a correct hunch. I⦠have a lot of those.
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Your version is better
Everyone I know loves the basketb meme though, and I mean itās been popular in every space Iāve shared it, without fail
Now youāre sharing it in blahaj.zone, not basketball.court
What if it looked like shit
My boobs h
I have a confession, though. I have never played basketball in my life, barring the super rare court at a public park. I donāt even play with my friends when they do, sports are just not my thing. I played baseball when I was 12.
I purely enjoy this meme because my brain is soup. Also, thereās this trans safe space Discord Iām in that I left for a time, and they kept it going while I was gone. If you squint, itās a basketb meme server, and not a trans server, and itās all thanks to me.
Goodbye. Letās basketb
the basketball version of the shitty crop is better imo (maybe because āmy boobs hurtā is lost as context)
EDIT: but between the original and āboobs hurtā version, I choose the latter
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good point
Iām 7 weeks in to HRT and have no changes yet. How? How do you already have this feeling? Iām glad youāre euphoric. Iām just jealous.
TLDR: You might want to consider doing some research, based on your current situation. E.g. if youāre on gel, see if injections might help. Also, blood workādonāt skip it! Personally, Iāve likely undergone such a drastic change due to the fact that being a psychonaut has made me significantly more perceptive and insightful.
Youāve made sure your hormone levels are actually at expected levels? It could be that your testosterone isnāt being suppressed. The only real way to be sure is a blood test. If levels are normal, it might just be taking its time. If not, you might want to try a different HRT solution.
I donāt know what youāre using, but if itās injections, somethingās up. Injections are highly reliable. If youāre not on a blocker, you might need one. Really picky stuff, HRT is.
As for me, though, Iāve got a bit of an unusual life situation which might explain the rapid, somewhat drastic psychological change.
I take a 2mg transdermal spray twice daily, with 50mg of bicalutamide. A noticeable bud developed within 2 weeks. This is normal. Mild euphoria is also present sometimes, which is also normal.
Thatās not where it ends, though, and this is where my unusual life situation comes into play.
I am what is called a psychonaut. I use drugs for many reasons, including recreationally, but not out of desperation to feel better. I havenāt been truly depressed in a long time. Itās really just a fun thing to pass timeāonly a hobby, or something deeper, on occasion. I see it as a means of exploring the self, be it in the form of understanding my own thoughts, experiencing new tactile sensations, or seeing things that canāt be imagined. Every factor of existence, itself, as an art. Not only that, but I have an inherent desire to understand how the human body works.
Itās pretty self explanatory why this matters.
THC is the only substance Iāve used frequently since starting HRT. It seems to be amplifying the subtle changes happening to me chemicallyāitās a megaphone. Makes sense, as itās described as somewhat psychedelic. THC has started to become a significantly more euphoric experience in terms of thought and physicality. Iāve started to experience prominent phantom limbs in the form of boobs, which is new to me. I find myself reaching for them, feeling for them, and it feels euphoric to do so. I also try to feel them while sober. Besides feeling natural to do, Iāve also been told this is a way the body registers change. So, THC has gone from something that I use just for a boost, to providing deeper insight to my beingādirectly tying in to my HRT experience.
Like a microscope that looks in.
Iāve probably had such a night and day difference because Iāve been trained to understand myself as much as possible. Like I said, unusual. Still, my baseline just feels different, like a bunch of connections starting to develop, to allow me to experience more emotion and physical sensation. This isnāt unique to stoners. If this isnāt at least mildly present after 2+ months, something unusual might be happening. I wouldnāt say itās necessarily a sign of ineffectiveness, but Iād still look into it.
But thatās it. Transdermal estradiol, and bicalutamide. I have no secrets. Sometimes, things that work in some people, donāt work in others. Spray could even end up ineffective for me, despite working at present (this is a reason why blood tests are so important). I just try to get as much accurate information and advice as possible, and go from there. HRT is a lot of patience, and a lot of determination.
Ending note: Being a psychonaut has made HRT remarkably easy to grasp. Isnāt being autistic great?
Oh, Iāve been in the closet for 11 years. Iāve had a LONG time to do my research. The problem is that the clinic Iām seeing is being overly cautious, and I donāt want to end-run them to DIY because I need them for lots of other things, some related and some not. They put me on 50mg spironolactone, which I guess did the job. Almost. T is at 70ng/dl. Since Iām in the US, cypro isnāt an option and the clinic is paranoid and told me they wonāt prescribe anything with a side effect of ādeathā listed, even though you and I both know thatās infinitesimally small a chance and bigger for cis-women than us. So that means no bicalutamide.
Iām also unfortunately on 4mg oral estradiol tablets. They donāt want to make ANY changes until the 3 month mark, so my E2 is sitting at 70pg/ml. The clinic seems happy with this. Iām beside myself at how low it is. I have asked to move to intramuscular estradiol valerate at monotherapy dosages, but they keep pushing back. My age likely doesnāt help, though. Iām over the hill. And fairly lean, since I run marathons and cycle centuries. So there isnāt a lot of fat to redistribute, but I should still feel the pain and sensitivity. Itās frustrating.
honestly, spiro is an awful medication that should be totally unacceptable as an anti androgen. On top of that, I was able to get planned parenthood to prescribe injection monotherapy, and theyāre much cheaper and quicker to work with than most other places. 70 ng/dl is way too high, to the point that youāre probably getting the worst of both worlds. Iād find new doctors if I were you.
Is spiro really that bad?
I get that itās the least effective among the choices but it also has the fewest side-effects, from my understandingā¦
Something to bring up w/ my doctor, I guess⦠Iāve been trying to reach them for a dosage increase anyway
fewest? it makes you constantly dehydrated and puts strain on your kidneys. My advice as someone who wasted 15 months getting fucked around by useless doctors is to plan your healthcare without them, and do whatever it takes to get doctors who will help you. You really cannot rely on them.
Iām on a really low dosage of spiro (25mg/day), so that might be why I havenāt felt it as badly.
But yeah, thatās basically what I did. My doctor is actually pretty okay (didnāt mind that I didnāt have the psychiatric diagnosis that youāre āsupposedā to have (not a legal requirement)), but she definitely did underdose me, and I am awful at making appointments, so Iāve just increased my own dosage of E in line with whatās actually a reasonable amount.
thatās good, but those t levels really donāt need to be so high. thatās the benefit of monotherapy is that no anti androgen is necessary
I would say stick to that for now. Itās not that long of a wait. If they still refuse, though, then Iād honestly say pursue DIY. Sometimes, you know whatās best for you.
You gotta do what you gotta do.
I was 3 months in before I realized something was definitely happening in that department. I started suddenly noticing every time I accidentally bumped the area with my arm etc. and the skin started feeling different.
2 weeks and I already had it. I suppose Iām speedrunning itā¦