Ukraine and European leaders agreed on Saturday to an unconditional 30-day ceasefire from 12 May with the backing of US president Donald Trump, threatening president Vladimir Putin with new “massive” sanctions if he failed to comply.

The announcement was made by the leaders of Britain, France, Germany, Poland and Ukraine after a meeting in Kyiv, during which they held a phone call with Trump.

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    Surrender now Putin or we’ll stop trading with you at massive expense to our own economy! We’ll do it we swear wojak-nooo

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    should have been at ‘massive’ sanctions a couple years ago.

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      Well Russian travelers preferentail treatment while applying for European visas has been cancelled, so now they have to wait for visas like everyone else. So things are getting pretty serious.

      “Russian citizens can still obtain Schengen visas to travel to Europe, but they may face a more challenging application process and potentially higher refusal rates. The EU has suspended the Visa Facilitation Agreement with Russia, meaning Russian citizens no longer enjoy preferential treatment when applying for visas”

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      Actually enforcing the sanctions? Fighting loopholes? Remove exceptions? Reduce gas imports? There’s still plenty of room.

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        Reduce gas imports?

        Please reduce gas imports more. Cripple any semblance of industry and power you have left. You will only use industrial power for killing children in Gaza and maintaining policing infrastructure either way. Better to let the gas be used by Chinese and Indian consumers (unironically).

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        There are some, and well know by the West in other to appease some EU region that cannot easily accommodate for the sanctions. Do you really, really, think is would it, in any shape or form, even noticeably by Moscow? Their economy is much faster growing with respect the EU and far more diversified in customers than 4 yrs ago (they need now to do it also in types of exported goods). Fr sure, Russia would like to normalize relations with the West, but if you give Moscow the choice of 5Billions trade in the West for the cost of 1Billion from Asia, he will chose to maintain the Asian one without any further thought.

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        Are you saying Russia isn’t under sanctions right now? Are you saying that the private wealth of Russian corps and citizens stored in North Atlantic institutions wasn’t frozen and then spent?

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          it’s not considered “sanctioned” until the International Communitytm deems it so!!!

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    Europe have already sanctioned Russia multiple times over, what makes them think the threat of sanctions is going to make Putin care this time?

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    Russia already had proposed a ceasefire for victory day but rejected any other since it would allow Ukraine to regroup. They’re winning, they already rejected this, this is just posturing for the home audience.

    yikes-1yikes-2yikes-2yikes-2yikes-2yikes-2yikes-3

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    After three glorious years of sanctions that totally crippled… oh wait, achieved nothing. This new batch will definitely work!

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    Haven’t Western nations already been applying significant sanctions to Russia? It’s pretty clear that hasn’t been working, why do they imagine that more of the same will work any better? Oh right, they don’t, they just want to look like they’re doing something useful.

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      It’s pretty clear that hasn’t been working

      It’s pretty clear you never looked into it. The Russian economy is massively strained, they got huge problems due to those sanctions.

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        No doubt, but as a mechanism of applying pressure to get them to stop invading Ukraine, I think you’ll have to agree that it’s failed miserably. That’s what I (and most people) mean by ‘working’: accomplishing the intended aim. Huge problems or not, the war continues unabated. Why do you imagine doing more of the same would be any more effective?

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    Moscow says it won’t be pressured over Ukraine 30-day truce --RT

    This is foolish. As foolish as Trump’s tariffs war. It’s trying to bully someone with a strong hand into a deal when they already offered you one. Trying to bluff them in a situation where if they call your position collapses entirely is foolish.

    Trump is showing he truly is someone swayed by whoever talks to him last. Zelensky was instructed by psychological experts from western intelligence I’m sure just how to appeal to him at their last meeting.

    Russia’s bottom lines have been the same since the start and the only change has been the addition of recognition of the eastern oblasts (which Russia within its own legal system incorporated as de jure parts of Russia (under Russian law)) as part of Russia.

    I can only assume that this ceasefire is another Minsk agreement deception. They intend to attempt to force it, to re-arm and re-train and re-group Ukraine’s military so they can put more of their men into the meat grinder and stall a collapse of the front another 10 months. And quite frankly given all the talk from France and other members of sending in troops once a ceasefire is achieved of trying to push the envelope of the acceptable slowly until Ukraine is de-facto but not de jure part of NATO.

    Trump is going to ensure the US gets very little or no minerals to plunder from Ukraine if Russia has to push through to the finish.

    I also wouldn’t be shocked if Trump is testing the waters with this, says nothing and then when Russia pushes back hard he’ll claim he never agreed to that and attempts to leave Europe on the hook for it all.