Doesn’t have to be a state secret. Just any Information to which access is restricted or it’d be dangerous or undesired if it were just handed out to the public.

Edit: Don’t reveal any secrets here. This is a public forum. Proceed with caution when answering this question.

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    ISO certificates for big companies don’t mean shit. They try to comply where they can but there’s always a few niche areas that aren’t actually covered the way they should be according to their certification. They get the cert anyway.

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    It is sort of an open secret that science is so compartmentalized that the whole picture of the state of the biosphere and environment is not able to be made apparent. All we hear about are the pieces and can’t see how it is all linked together or how the whole picture looks.

    The reality is that things are grim and we have long passed the point where the world in 50 years can look anything like it did 30 years ago.

    The fond memories of your childhood experiencing the beauty and wonder in the variety of the creatures that share the planet with us will not be something you can give future generations because prior generations stole it.

    You grew up in a wold that dies slowly in front of your eyes until it became nothing but memories and photographs. Nothing can be done to change this reality. No act of personal responsibility, no activism, no petition, no technology, no government, no corporate philanthropy can change what will come. A magic wand, a miracle, or a technology indistinguishable from a miracle magic wand is the only thing that can save the natural world of your childhood from becoming the “sure Gran(pa/ma/das)” story your grandparents told you about the unbelievable experiences of their childhood.

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      https://sinhalaguide.com/suzuki-too-late-climate-change/

      there are still profits to be made, right up until the moment our globally interconnected civilization topples over and crumbles into specks of petty squabbling hungry pseudostates trying vainly to resist the unrelenting tides of climate refugees. Therefore, the issues will be ignored as long as profits can still be made.

      We’re gonna see cults, carnies and crusaders all promising easy solutions that range from <persecute this minority because DIETYX says to> to <buy our wonder-tonic today>. Apparently we elected one of these very idiots to lead the country.

      shit is gonna get wild.

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    I think the internet (especially the clear web) is not the place to generally share such things, so I encourage caution in this post.

    However, one thing I found to be impressively easy to find (not sure if it qualifies as restricted information), is how to make various high-explosives. It makes me think we don’t have that many severely mentally ill and capable people in our societies (still too many, ofc).

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      Thanks. I’ve added your warning to the post.

      And yes, old chemistry books and some specific books on resistance are very detailed. Fortunately it requires some skill and knowledge, so people need some amount of sanity to succeed with that. And the severe mentally ill can always buy an axe or a knife, in some countries even a gun, and that’s enough if they bring that to a crowded public space.

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        Fortunately it requires some skill and knowledge

        Or just someone who is sufficiently crazy lol - C4 is not particularly advanced, but the cooking process is extremely volatile, which is probably a big deterrent by itself.

        And the severe mentally ill can always buy an axe or a knife, in some countries even a gun

        Which is fortunately usually as far as they ever go. Then every now and then you have people like Breivik and Unabomber.

        In some ways, I’m glad societies have evolved in a direction where we can intercept and take care of people who potentially follow these people’s footsteps, but as many privacy advocates will emphasize, is that it’s a fine line between this and authoritarianism.

        What is your stance on withholding information that you’re basically asking for in this post? Usually information is restricted because it is sensitive and could easily be used for malicious intents.

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          My stance is: It’s complicated. I’m usually for transparency. Until I’m not. There are valid use-cases for secrets. And it really depends on specific circumstances. Information in general can be used as a weapon or to help. There isn’t a simple answer to that question.

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            Indeed. Do you have any examples of transparency you’re against? I imagine state-secrets like the access to governmental/military facilities is a given for many, but let’s use explosives-making as an example: Is the fact that the explosive terrorism is so far-and-few in between a result of the people being trustworthy with this accessible information? And furthermore, what makes it so?

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              Well first of all I already said, there are more accessible options to kill people. Explosives are more for proper terrorists. And it’s an extreme. Criminals shouldn’t have access to anything (including information) which assists them in injuring people. And I think generally humans are born with empathy and feelings. And lots of them have ethics. In a working society and without being faced with existential threats, they’re the exception.

              More mundane and everyday scenarios are something like doxxing, ratting out people or leaking their secrets. Or you’re the admin of a service and protect your users. Or you’re and employee and protect the company.

              I don’t think it’s any big issue that I (and some other people) read the old chemistry books. And we can make things moderately difficult by removing them from the shelves, so it at least takes some effort to get there. That should already help. It’s the same idea like putting a small fence somewhere. With enough dedication and effort it can be circumvented, but it gets you somewhere. Of course that still doesn’t address the criminals. So we need other ways to filter them out.

              Edit: And I forgot safe-spaces. Some issues are better discussed in private. And it helps opening up when there isn’t the general public and stereotypes involved. I guess that applies to science to some degree as well. Some studies and achievements are turned into misinformation or could be weaponized, so they might better stay within the scientific community. But that’s not ideal.

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      Hmm, I usually like information about intimacy to stay confined to the bedroom and involved parties only. 😅 But I’m aware of that. And men talk, too. Certainly in a different way, though.

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    I’m not sure what I have to contribute here myself, other than the usual incompetency behind the scenes. I mean the existence of that is common knowledge, just not the specifics.