• SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca
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    I’m not convinced it is a good thing that both are being investigated if the investigation into Buttigieg is just political smearing. HRC’s emails show the cost of abusive investigations. Investigations aren’t cost free, either monetarily or in terms of public trust in institutions. It implies he did something worth investigating, and devalues the seriousness of real investigations, like those against Trump.

    When the review was announced, Buttigieg had flown on FAA planes 18 times out of 138 flights for official trips since becoming secretary early in 2021, according to The Washington Post. He takes commercial flights most of the time, and when he uses FAA aircraft, it’s usually because it’s cheaper than commercial flights, a Department of Transportation spokeswoman said.

    This does not seem to be something worth investigating.

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      devalues the seriousness of real investigations

      The only thing people like Green or Jordan doing Congress is distract, distract, distract.

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      Huh?

      If they investigate him, and everything is cool, then it’s cool… Which is what the article sounds like.

      If he’s abusing it, just to a much smaller degree, then that’s still an issue.

      Like, that’s the whole point of not just holding people from your “own team” accountable. If someone might be doing something wrong, you investigate them no matter who they are.

      Do you think an investigation means a huge thing where he testifies in front of Congress? That’s not an investigation.

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        I am not against holding “my own team” accountable if there is some valid reason to think there is something worth investigating. If there isn’t, it is a witch hunt, and witch hunts are harmful. They can be used to harass, waste time, and slander by vague insinuation. More to the point, the public has finite attention. News of pointless investigations can be used strategically to drown out real ones, which is a threat to democracy. That is, I believe, what Republicans are presently doing.

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        Yeah, but when you have obvious and public cases of MASSIVE corruption in “your own team” and you fail to adress that… instead gojng after any “petty” corruption in the other team…

        Yeah. That’s a problem.

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          If someone steals 100 million from a charity, it doesn’t mean we dont care if someone else stole 10k…

          And it certainly doesn’t mean we don’t even look if someone stole 10k

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            You missed the point.

            Or your ignoring it because you know that your team doesn’t care aboutnl corruption, just scoring political points.

            Either way you slice it, republicans are patently and blatantly corrupt and only going after democrats because they’re democrats.

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              Either way you slice it, republicans are patently and blatantly corrupt and only going after democrats because they’re democrats.

              So?

              Literally who cares what they’re doing. Dems should be investigating everyone regardless of party.

              Otherwise no Dem will ever be held accountable, because Republicans are completely incompetent. It won’t take long of that for grifters to take over both parties.

              Holding everyone accountable shouldn’t be a controversy statement.

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                Otherwise no Dem will ever be held accountable

                held accountable for…what, exactly? having a big cock? or having a job? or, Biden doing business after leaving the whitehouse? Or Pete Travelling? Literally none of these house investigations- which are being done by REPUBLICANS- are being conducted in good faith. it’s partisan politics, and it’s a massive waste of time. Because Democrats do hold their own accountable where republicans absolutely do not.

                There is zero evidence of corruption here- or else it would be moved to criminal courts- See, for example, Senator Menendez.

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                  Or Pete Travelling?

                  I’m trying to stay on topic here…

                  But yes, if he used government private flights when he should have paid for his own travel.

                  It doesn’t matter if Republicans abuse it more. Democrats are supposed to be the adults in the room. And adults don’t get to get away with stuff just because the toddler threw shit on the walls.

                  If he didn’t do anything wrong, then it’s very easy to prove. There’s all types of records for this stuff and a GS6 could put a report together in an afternoon.

                  There’s zero reason not to do that

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                    If he didn’t do anything wrong, then it’s very easy to prove. There’s all types of records for this stuff and a GS6 could put a report together in an afternoon.

                    There’s zero reason not to do that

                    And there’s no reason to waste the House of Representatives time with a floor hearing or panel, either. Because either he did or didn’t. And if he did, it would have been shouted at from the rooftops rather than dragging out meetings. So we both know he didn’t. Then there’s the $1 salary thing which is just Greene dicking around because… they have nothing else they can do.

                    It doesn’t matter if Republicans abuse it more. Democrats are supposed to be the adults in the room. And adults don’t get to get away with stuff just because the toddler threw shit on the walls.

                    Just re-read what you just said. “it doesn’t matter if Republicans [are corrupt assholes]. Demcorats are not supposed to be [corrupt assholes] and [not-corrupt assholes] don’t get to get away with [being corrupt assholes].” I don’t know about you, but I’d like to have a congress that isn’t filled halfway with blatantly corrupt assholes that seem to be doing everything in their power to fuck over Americans. maybe that’s just me.

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        The problem is, Republicans don’t tell the truth. When you actually press the investigative committee into Hunter Biden about the evidence they have, they’ll quietly murmur there isn’t any. But otherwise, they’ll very loudly suggest they have evidence and outright lie.