• LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee
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      The last bit you quoted about Biden is referring to statements he made about Biden asking Netanyahu about the possibility of a ceasefire and that Bibi told Biden there is none.

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          Yes, there’s no possibility because he’s asked and was tolled no possibility.

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            This is the correct answer. There will be no cease fire until, at minimum, the hostages are released. The other problem that the Israelis have is that there’s no evidence that Hamas has any intention of honoring a cease fire as they’ve willingly violated many such agreements in the past.

            I don’t have a strong opinion as to what the correct choice is here for Israel, I’m simply stating the facts as they relate to the possibility of a cease fire.

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      why tf is a state legislature even wasting time on this?

      they should be contacting their elected representatives in congress like anyone else.

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        Only ones picking up the phones I imagine. You should attend a local school board meeting and listen to all the

        “This is state level policy”

        “I don’t care do something about it!”

        People are raising their concerns with the powers that be and they aren’t listening so they go find someone with some power and yell at them.

        And yeah this is not me showing contempt. I get it fully.

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        If he wasn’t, he’s be called an antisemitic jew hater for daring question the Israeli narrative. Anything less than full throated support is akin to supporting Hamas according to a very large amount of stupid and/or intellectually dishonest people.

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          You aren’t wrong, but he’s been ride-or-die for Israel for his entire career. He’s the most pro-Israel president we’ve ever had.

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            Reagan was seriously pro-Israel and started the whole US-supported Israeli military funding. source

            Jen Kirby - You mentioned that the United States had a big investment in the Iron Dome. Why is that — what’s the US’s stake in this?

            Jean-Loup Samaan - Well, first, historically, the US started cooperating with Israel on air defense in the 1980s. So when missile defense became a significant component of defense investment in the US, Israel was very quickly involved. There’s a history of close ties between both countries in that field. So it would seem, in a sense, natural that a consequence of that is to support something like Iron Dome.

            I think it was around the end of Obama’s first term, in 2012, that the US put a stronger emphasis on Iron Dome in terms of budgeting. I believe it was probably not just the politics behind it, but also the strategic assessment that the priority is to protect and to strengthen the defense of Israel vis-à-vis these types of rockets.

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              Started? How geopolitically ignorant are you? A considerable portion of the IDF’s armaments (including over 100 fighter jets) during the Yom Kippur War were flown in from the US. This was seven years before Reagan. The entirety of Israel’s existence has just been the US and France dumping weapons. (Israel didn’t indigenously make it’s nuclear weapons, they came from France’s nuclear projects, just like how the Kfir wasn’t built using Israel’s non-existent aerospace industry).

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                I quoted a source. If you don’t agree with it, quote another.

                And please don’t call me ignorant. It’s rude and uncalled for.

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                  “I quoted a source”

                  I can smash on a keyboard and then write a citation to whatever nonsense comes. An intelligent person cross-references it with well established facts, and then decides if it’s probably true.

                  The idea that US support for Israel started in the 80s is refuted by hundreds of data points in Israeli history.

                  “It’s rude and uncalled for”

                  It’s totally called for. You could literally have read the Wikipedia on history of modern Israel and seen that it was patently false.