A coalition of civil rights groups expects the turnout on Oct. 18 will be even bigger than the first nationwide protest held in June, which by some counts was the largest in U.S. history.
We still have to build the base. If we want to talk about a nationwide work stoppage but we can’t even get 1% of people to a protest, then it won’t be effective.
It would be an effective protest if people did not stop protesting. People are just wasting their Saturday. What is effective is a strike. But, a strike doesn’t just end periodically. The strike continues until we get what we want. And yes, there are lots of risks
With respect, I understand how a strike works. I understand that if you want something done you have to commit. What we are seeing now is completely unprecedented in US history. None of those people in power give a shit and none of those people will ever budge. It does not matter how much protesting you do it will not happen. The only thing that will happen is to completely shut down the country as citizens. Yes, food, rent, that is going to be a big issue. And if people are not willing to do that then we need to just accept our new fascist regime and figure out how to survive
The Nazis collected sympathy by pointing to the deaths of officers at the hands of assassins. On its own, blind violence won’t always do what you want to them. You need to grind down the machines of the system they’re pushing, and you cannot give them easy excuses to legitimize further support.
There is A LOT you can do locally too. Lots of people need help and remember that federal laws and rules are enforced locally. A local group can’t stop ICE but it can stop some ICE stuff happening next door.
We still have to build the base. If we want to talk about a nationwide work stoppage but we can’t even get 1% of people to a protest, then it won’t be effective.
It would be an effective protest if people did not stop protesting. People are just wasting their Saturday. What is effective is a strike. But, a strike doesn’t just end periodically. The strike continues until we get what we want. And yes, there are lots of risks
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With respect, I understand how a strike works. I understand that if you want something done you have to commit. What we are seeing now is completely unprecedented in US history. None of those people in power give a shit and none of those people will ever budge. It does not matter how much protesting you do it will not happen. The only thing that will happen is to completely shut down the country as citizens. Yes, food, rent, that is going to be a big issue. And if people are not willing to do that then we need to just accept our new fascist regime and figure out how to survive
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I mean, we need a nationwide action plan, and that doesn’t happen locally.
They really is just nothing we can do as citizens at this point. Get out if you can, or buy a gun.
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I wonder if people in the 1930s called the Nazi whistleblowers “doomers.” Boy would they have been wrong.
The Nazis collected sympathy by pointing to the deaths of officers at the hands of assassins. On its own, blind violence won’t always do what you want to them. You need to grind down the machines of the system they’re pushing, and you cannot give them easy excuses to legitimize further support.
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There is A LOT you can do locally too. Lots of people need help and remember that federal laws and rules are enforced locally. A local group can’t stop ICE but it can stop some ICE stuff happening next door.