My argument is that flex should be the norm. If there is no explicit reason for rigid times, they shouldn’t be rigid.
There is no norm. It depends on the country and their social structure aswell as their laws/agreed upon methods. You can always look for jobs/appointments etc that have flexible times. But good luck arguing with, e.g. a doctor about your appointment being flexible.
I think the other poster covered that by specifically talking about appointments. Reread what they said, its pretty damn valid. My job for instance would have very little consequences if I’m ten minutes late. I’ve told my manager that I may be later dropping off kids and such, they are fine with that. The point is the culture doesn’t change if we don’t push it to change.
Cool. Then you have that flex agreement with someone. If that works, it works.
In a social context, aka not work, the agreement with me would say that the time is the time. If you don’t value my time the same as yours, then we will eventually stop spending time together.
Cool. So if I push that and that becomes the social norm at the workplace, then you should also be cool with that because that’s the direction. So if we as a society starting pushing for those things, everyone is hunk dory with that being a normal thing and this whole conversation is fucking moot which what the original replied was saying. but by all means let’s shift this all to a discussion on social context all of a sudden.
There is no norm. It depends on the country and their social structure aswell as their laws/agreed upon methods. You can always look for jobs/appointments etc that have flexible times. But good luck arguing with, e.g. a doctor about your appointment being flexible.
I think the other poster covered that by specifically talking about appointments. Reread what they said, its pretty damn valid. My job for instance would have very little consequences if I’m ten minutes late. I’ve told my manager that I may be later dropping off kids and such, they are fine with that. The point is the culture doesn’t change if we don’t push it to change.
Cool. Then you have that flex agreement with someone. If that works, it works.
In a social context, aka not work, the agreement with me would say that the time is the time. If you don’t value my time the same as yours, then we will eventually stop spending time together.
Cool. So if I push that and that becomes the social norm at the workplace, then you should also be cool with that because that’s the direction. So if we as a society starting pushing for those things, everyone is hunk dory with that being a normal thing and this whole conversation is fucking moot which what the original replied was saying. but by all means let’s shift this all to a discussion on social context all of a sudden.
Nope. I’m not ok with it in a social context.
You are talking about changing about a social structure, then get confused that i talk about the social factor? Get your thoughts in order.