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Those among the 42 million enrolled in the program worry that cutoff of the benefit will send their lives into a tailspin
Across the country, Americans who depend on government help to buy groceries are preparing for the worst.
As a result of the ongoing federal government shutdown, Donald Trump has threatened to, for the first time in the program’s more than 60-year history, cut off benefits provided by the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance program (SNAP). A federal judge last week prevented the US Department of Agriculture from suspending Snap altogether, but the Trump administration now says enrollees will receive only half of their usual benefits.
The Guardian wanted to know how important Snap was to the approximately 42 million people enrolled in the program. Many of those who responded to our callout were elderly, or out of the workforce because of significant mental of physical health issues, and worried that a cutoff of the benefit would send their lives into a tailspin.
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Then realize that many of them voted for this because they’d rather starve themselves than help those that don’t look or act like they do.
All peoples should be fed and housed. Full stop; no conditions. Rich, poor, parent, single, married, immigrant, citizen, young, old, political affiliation, whatever. Food insecurity is a horrible problem and shouldn’t be a worry for anybody these days, especially for the kids.
the beauty of it, these people being denied SNAP will turn to crime, in which case they’ll be sent to jail and enriching the private prison owners even more!
At least 16 million of them could not possibly have voted for this.
An estimated 39% of SNAP recipients are children.
We need Universal Basic Incomes, for everyone.
Never ever ever gonna happen in the US until the states break up.
I will bet on that happening in my lifetime too.
Which do you think will be the first to split? All at once or slow?
California probably, if things keep going down the stupid path.
Florida if the pendulum swings back to sanity.
I’d bet it’s slow.
If California, Oregon and Washington State form Cascadia, and Canada’s Alberta (our Texas/Alabama) makes a successful attempt to split from Canada to join the states, British Columbia is liable to join Cascadia. We would be too isolated from the rest of Canada if Alberta decides to cecede.
That could easily create a country that could - and should - monopolize the west coast’s access to Asia.
Hey… What’s my nose doing on the floor!? It was just on my face a minute ago!
Why’s this bloody knife in my hand? I couldn’t have done this… Could I? No… I don’t think so.
I should check it for fingerprints. What!? Only my prints are on it!?
Stranger and stranger…
“Hey kids! Sorry, we can’t eat this week because the neighbors voted Trump. Oopsie.”
Just what the fuck do some of these people think the Republican platform truly IS?
Sure, they distract dumbass racists, transphobes, xenophobes with the prospect of punching down on “the others”, but the true heart of conservatism is extracting money from the poor and middle class and sending it upwards.
If that means kids get to starve, oh well.
Americans are waking up and realizing “the cruelty is the point”. Slowly but surely.
The hilarious part of this is people should start to realize that having a full time job and still needing assistance that the government supplies was always part of the scheme, and kept you all complacent and malleable. Now that the government is not going to hold up to its end of the bargain is going to expose the heinous nature of their schemes and the near criminal nature of not being paid an equitable wage for the work you are delivering. It’s all a big dumb game, and you lost! Time for a new game, eh?
Get this through your heads the GOP is evil though and through. They always have been and you are a fool to vote for them if you are a working person.
Dirty ass MAGA trailer park trash are mad because the liberals took their “foodstamp cash”.
Sucks to reap what you sow huh
Did I miss a part of the article that linked voting for Trump and being on SNAP? Or are we just taking a moment to teabag the poor, disabled, and elderly because they live in the US?
Plenty enough of the poor, disabled and elderly in the U.S. failed to vote against Trump such that they caused this.
Let’s completely ignore how Republicans have been rat fucking elections.
So? Still should try to vote. Many millions didn’t bother, and even a small fraction of those votes could have made the difference.
Well, no…a few million in the right places would have made the difference
You know who I blame? The people who’s job it is to mobilize those people to vote, and acted like entitled pieces of shit instead of upholding democracy. It was an unforgivable shit show of two half assed campaigns in a trenchcoat
I blame my lazy and stupid countrymen failing an open book test. You do not need to be coerced to vote against fascism; that’s a lazy stupid take that absolves the citizens of their duty and obligation to be informed and engaged in the civic process, including voting and understanding how our system actually works in practice as well as theory.
If you didn’t vote or voted third party you are very nearly as responsible as the trump voters. It is not the Democratic party’s responsibility to motivate you to save yourself from an existential threat. Blaming them knowing it’s coming makes you stupid and complicit.
Bullshit. The Democrats played chicken with fascism, AGAIN, refused to call it what it was, and then collaborated with the fascists until it became clear they were all going to lose their jobs next election
They literally paved the path for Trump’s victory. They created a situation with so little hope for the future that enough dumbasses desperate for change believed a con man… Again
And here I thought it was the Muslims standing up for Gaza.
Them too. There were so many eligible voters who didn’t bother to vote and the margins were thin. There’s a lot of different groups that could have made the difference.
Harris received 6.8 million votes fewer than Biden received in 2020. Even assuming every single one of those 6.8 million votes were SNAP recipients, you’re essentially saying that 42 million people deserve to go hungry because 3 in 20 (or around 16%) of them chose not to vote in 2024.
Moreover, DJT only received 2.8 million more votes in 2024 than he did in 2020. So let’s assume all 2.8 million of those were SNAP recipients, and then let’s assume SNAP recipients entirely determined the election result. 2.8 million + 6.8 million voters is about 22% of all SNAP recipients (or about 1 in 5).
Never mind the fact that around 39% of SNAP recipients are children (i.e. unable to vote).
So 2 children and 3 adults deserve to go hungry if 1 of the adults either doesn’t vote or votes for the wrong person?
Do you realize how incredibly fucking insane you sound?
Actually, you’re the one coming off a bit nutty. No offense.
Everyone who could have voted against trump but didn’t bother is to blame. There’s a pretty big group who are suffer because of trump who didn’t vote against him. Of course there were many who did what they could against trump but still suffer and that sucks, of course. But there’s fuck all we can do about it - except to vote against trump/repubs whenever the opportunity is there. That is the only chance we have left - for today’s elections, and for the midterms. We can’t pussy foot about playing one cause off on another - or being sensitive to those who find it difficult - just get out there and vote.That’s not how statistics works.
“ThATs NoT hOW sTatIStICS wORks” he says, in the midst of a conversation in which the motion being debated is whether some of the poors not voting correctly means all of the poors deserve to go hungry.
Forgive me if I don’t take your “nuh uh” as a persuasive rationale for starving 16 million kids. You’re clearly the more intelligent of the two of us.
I’m not weighing in on your argument. Just that the case you made is made up of useless statistics making it incredibly easy to dismiss.
Because it was a hypothetical based upon an argument from absurdity.
I know that the statistics were absurd. The premise was, “let’s assume everyone who didn’t show up to vote this time around and everyone that voted for Trump (but didn’t last time) are at fault.”
My goal was not to demonstrate what statistically plausible number of people that were “responsible for Trump winning” that were on SNAP benefits.
My entire point was that even if you do shitty, uncharitable, worst-case-scenario statistics about the election, the original argument would amount to saying 42 million people should go hungry because less than a quarter of them didn’t vote hard enough. My point was that even lying with the numbers would still result in the original premise being flimsy.
Your gripe is that my math is wrong. My gripe is that even shitty math can’t come close to justifying 42 million people thrown off SNAP, which further highlights the assholery of stating “hurr durr didn’t vote hard enough so let them eat cake”.
Your pedantry misses the sarcasm and tone of my response, and—judging from your comment history—is perfectly in line with your MO of dropping one liners designed to be maximally contrarian without contributing further to the discussion.
Like… no shit the real stats are wildly different—they would very likely show that a much smaller number of people who determined the outcome of the 2024 election are currently SNAP recipients. Which, again, would not make the original premise that I was responding to any stronger.
You’re failing at reading comprehension.
This is giving real “well have they tried not being poor?” energy.
All of us cognizant Americans are responsible for this. No matter who you voted for, this was the end road of high tech imperialism. Everyone is just pissed the boomerang finally came back around and clocked us in the jaw.
It’s almost as if… it’s a sedition… no it couldn’t possibly be
