Before anyone starts downvoting, I come in peace.

The entire English football media today is based around extorting United for clicks and attention. In the last decade of United pretty much dwindling with very little trophy success, I’ve heard Gary Neville go on and on about United. So much so that I’ve heard him(and some other English pundits) say that it would be best for English football for United to return back to trophy success - why exactly?

I’m not English so maybe that’s why I don’t understand it but why is it so hard for the English media to accept that United existing without trophy success is not some atomic bomb to English football?

Eras come and go: Chelsea, Liverpool, Aston Villa, Everton, Arsenal, Nottingham Forrest. United or any other club should not be exempt from what I perceive to be the natural law of the English game.

  • Newcastlewin1@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    United is more of a cultural phenomenon now than a real juggernaut of the game (they could become a juggernaut again but not with these owners). A contributing factor as to why united may not have lost as much popularity though would be that their darby rivals in city are kind of seen as cheaters in a way. That statement is gonna get some hate, but i mean they are legitimately accused of over 100 breaches of financial fair play spanning back many seasons. City is a fantastic team, but its hard to be very romantic about them in the way people are about united.

    Really the fans will probably continue to revolve around the traditional big 6 for the foreseeable future as even when they are performing worse like chelsea and man united, they still bring in tons of big name players that get everyone talking. A lot of the big pundits are also former players of those teams which helps as well.

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    10 months ago

    They spend far too much to ever be mid table. They also finished like 3rd last season, so not sure what you mean?

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    10 months ago

    Manchester reds will end up where they belong (10th or 11th). They have no say in who will win the league as 1. It seems like a cancer is within the structure at the heart of the club And b. Nobody gives a toss about manchester red ie they are now irrelevent to English football as they are shite from top to bottom.

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    10 months ago

    Nothing. They’re just a bloody team. Like everyone else. They are entitled to nothing. The English Football League is a pyramid. Teams go up, teams go down. This idea that certain teams have to be at the top is nonsense. The EPL will exist and do as well as ever with or without Manchester United in the top 6 or even in the league.

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    10 months ago

    I think that it is quite Likely that West Ham United remain mid table, only kidding, I know that you mean Leeds United and I dream of them being mid table.

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    10 months ago

    Your implication that Man Utd has been a mid-table club for a decade is way way off.

    You must be trolling.

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    10 months ago

    What do you mean “remain”? We’ve been challenging from top 4 in all but 2 post SAF seasons, in which we were fighting for top 6. Obviously nowhere near as during the SAF era, but hardly midtable either

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    10 months ago

    Nothing.

    It’s mad to say but Man UTD have only been for good for a couple of periods, part of the 50s, a few year of the 60s and then 90s and 2000s… other then that they were generally average to poor.

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    10 months ago

    same thing that happened to Liverpool when they fell off and became mid table for a bit. the media will shift focus elsewhere

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    10 months ago

    The term midtable is used way too freely these days. Midtable is 7th -14th imo. United haven’t historically finished in these places - even in their poorer current state since 2013. Liverpool and Spurs have all had multiple legitimate midtable finishes in the last twenty years. United, bar the Moyes season, have not.

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      10 months ago

      Mid table is 9-14 IMHO. 8th place is only 1 spot behind European qualification most seasons, and there’s many clubs for whom a top-8 finish is a great achievement. Mid table refers to the clubs who had no real bearing on anything - European spots or relegation. Source: Tottenham fan since the 90’s. We were the definition of mid-table until 2006

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        10 months ago

        9-14th sounds fair. Although when people talk about ‘mid table mediocrity/mid table obscurity’ I feel we can extend to 15th or even 16th if they are far removed from the relegation scrap.