Good. People can wait a few days to get their packages if it means better working conditions.
Also just not buy things from Amazon until the strike is over. Real stores exist!
(I say this as a recluse who buys almost everything online)
Most of the time sellers on Amazon have their own online storefront
Yeah. Your item on Amazon often will say “order fulfilled by Company Y.” You can look that company up to see if you can order directly from them, that way they still get the sale without Bezos taking his cut.
I did this a few times. Ordered directly from the company instead of through Amazon. But then an expensive order didn’t show up. Amazon would have replaced it. But others companies’ policies are not so customer friendly. I was in the middle of contesting the charge 3 weeks later when a neighbor showed up at my front door with the package. Said he found it while clearing brush along our common road.
Now I only buy through Amazon. If the neighbor had not been honest, I could have been out $280. And yes, we do have a problem with overworked USPS drivers leaving packages at the bottom of the road.
Yeah that return policy is fucking hard to beat
Same, but I’ve got away without buying from Amazon for 5+ years now, so I’m pretty sure anyone can do it.
A couple of times a package I ordered from some random website would come in an amazon box, just because they incidentally use the service, but that was it.
They got me with the free prime delivery. I’ll get, like, a single bottle of Tylenol delivered. My husband likes the card benefits, so they got him there. Plus, sometimes we watch shows and movies if Netflix or Youtube doesn’t have them (we only pirate if what we want can’t be found elsewhere, since we are fortnate enough to be able to pay for the media we consume)
I hate to say it, but… it’s a great service
But even I can walk away, and stand in solidarity with workers. They deserve better, and Amazon can afford to give it to them
We recycle cartons at work to send stuff to our customers.
Saves a bit of money and is better for the environment.
I will openly admit I should be much better about not ordering so much stuff online.
Nothing will come out of that strike. It’s just 1 day and then back to being a wage slave. If anything, it will prove to Amazon that they, Amazon, are pulling the levers. In order for a strike to be effective, it has to last until changes are agreed upon which is impossible without a strong union.
It only really works if they keep striking. A one day strike is lame
Let’s hope the striking workers can afford to live without pay before Amazon cave in and pay up!
…Oh wait I forgot it’s 2023
If they can’t live without pay, what they should really do is unionize.
That’s exactly the problem and the reason this strike will accomplish nothing, yes.
Do you have any concept what it’s like for any fledgling union?
“Lame” shows your ignorance.
Oh can not wait for Amazon blaming the strike for any and all issues for the next year or so.
Wait, Fucker Carlson made a good point? Broken clock is broken at least once a day I suppose.
I haven’t kept up much with fucker “punchable face” Carlson but from what I’ve heard, after being fired from Fox, he has started to backpedal on a lot of things he said and is actively trying to salvage his “journalist” career
Just to play devils advocate; his leaked texts confirmed he never believed some of the stuff he said (which makes him more of an asshole).
I wouldn’t be surprised if he was pressured by Murdoch etc. to push certain narratives.
Please don’t pity him. His first episode on his new show (Tucker on X), was him interviewing a lunatic who claims to have had a gay, drug-fueled orgy with Obama. Tucker literally interviewed this guy as if it were a serious claim, ignoring the fact that the guy is a convicted felon who is known for lying about crazy shit.
Definitely don’t pity him. This cunt is responsible for people dying. I’m not being hyperbolic either.
No he isn’t. If anything he’s gone more Info Wars style.
twice a day! don’t you dare take away that extra one from Fucker
He often presents populist ideas, even when they aren’t in line with his normal rhetoric.
I think he does it to grab attention or appeal to people with that idea. He then spews a ton of well-polished half-truths and straight lies to make whatever point he was after in the first place.
It’s not uncommon for anyone to agree with a sentence or two from him out of context, but in context, it’s all garbage.
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24hr format would be once a day. It’s perspective all around
I’ve always countered the “broken clock” comments with “24-hour movement with perpetual calendar” but I get shoved in a locker when I do it
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I’m not your pal, guy
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I’m not your friend, pal!
I’m not your pal, buddy!
I did say at least once a day.
I don’t want to presume Fucker is right more than that.
This strike is sponsored by Amazon so that 99% of their business keeps on making money by creating a distraction.
Joke or fact?
Conspiracy theory, I think.
This happens every year at least for the last 4 or 5 years… My deliveries have never been impacted.
Their B2C prodit margins are razor thin. (Or they used to be, before they started fuckery with the prices.)
The majority of their profit comes from AWS which is running like half of the internet.
The actual boss move would be to quit in masses and found a competing company to actually bring down Amazon. But of course all of them are utterly incapable of anything like that.
I just started delivering for them a few weeks ago and it’s decent pay and easy work. In fact I’m scheduled 4 10 hour days of my choosing and I usually get done in 8 but still get paid for 10 hours. $24/hr.
I don’t know if I just work out of a good location but like 90% of what that video said is bullshit… and our location definitely is not striking.
Like the video hammered on carbon footprint, meanwhile Amazon is completely converting its fleets to electric vehicles. I’m in one right now, on my lunch break, typing this.
Feel free to AMA. Dumbass people downvoting because reality doesn’t align with your misguided, counterfeit morally superior anger. Nothing says bitch like downvoting without engaging.
You’re assuming that your reality is the same for everyone.
No, I’m actually not, I’m stating what I know for a fact.
Stating your “fact” as if it’s fact for everyone. That’s why you’re being called out, bro. Your asserting your individual singular experience as universal truth.
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Genuine question, do you or your family buy things on Amazon? Have to be pretty stupid to call someone a shill that works for them. Next time your Amazon delivery driver drops off a package for you, how about you run out there and scream at them for being a shill, you fucking moron. Because that’s what you’re doing right now.
Jesus christ I hope you get some help for your actual mental illness, bro. This lovel of dissonance and lashing out is not healthy or normal.
Source: Trust me bro
Your source is what? Some dumbass video? Lmao.
A source for what? I didn’t make any claims, unlike you.
rude ._.
Your personal experience doesn’t matter when people that have much more experience than you and actually understand what’s happening in the company tell you.
You’re just too stupid to know, Dunning-Kruger effect here.
I can give plenty of examples of bad employment practices working at Amazon. Your one little example is literally meaningless.
You’re just too stupid to know, Dunning-Kruger effect here.
In what way am I wrong? I’m willing to hear out your counters. If you have none, then that “Dunning-Kruger effect here,” applies to you.
you think logical fallacies are valid
I just started delivering for them a few weeks ago
Lol
Dumbass people downvoting because reality doesn’t align with your misguided anger.
At the time of my reply your comment is only 7 minutes old and you have no downvotes. Very weird thing to try to preempt.
If you’re viewing from Kbin, you can only see downvotes from other Kbin users. If a user from another instance downvotes it, it will not show up unless you view the post on the original instance.
I had like -5 in 5 minutes with no replies.
It’s cause you’re a shill
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Genuine question, do you or your family buy things on Amazon? Have to be pretty stupid to call someone a shill that works for them. Next time your Amazon delivery driver drops off a package for you, how about you run out there and scream at them for being a shill, you fucking moron. Because that’s what you’re doing right now.
appeal to hypocrisy
why is on fediverse if corporate scab ._.
also who upvote
There’s things you can talk about on here and there’s things that you can’t. If you mention that you like Amazon, everybody that has no clue about anything and that just reads articles with no real experience anywhere will down vote you. With that said I hope this strike works out for them. Anybody have the actual numbers? Hundreds or thousands definitely ain’t enough.
Honestly, Lemmy seems worse than reddit, people actually just upvote and downvote based on feels instead of facts. Or things that sound good regardless of accuracy. Probably going to be done with it. Too many idiots here.
Good, get the fuck out of here, shill.
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Genuine question, do you or your family buy things on Amazon? Have to be pretty stupid to call someone a shill that works for them. Next time your Amazon delivery driver drops off a package for you, how about you run out there and scream at them for being a shill, you fucking moron. Because that’s what you’re doing right now.
repeatedly replying with this identical comment didn’t help your case at all. it further makes you look like a bot.
also your knee jerk reaction isn’t doing your position any favors. obviously some people have ok experiences working for Amazon otherwise no one would do it. but I think the majority and systemic issue of poor treatment is pretty clear at this point. and while you may not have direct experience of this it would be considerate to recognize that most do and deserve whatever support we can spare.
I’m more cracking up at his whole “if you use amazon but also complain about it you’re a fucking dumbass idiot fuckwad moron blah blah rtard”
Ignoring that there literally is no ethical consumption under capitalism anymore. My choices for shopping are amazon or Walmart because nowhere else is affordable. You can’t vote with your wallet anymore. That’s WHY strikes and supporting workers are so important, and that’s why this dumbass is actually a fucking asshole piece of shit.
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It has been pretty rough when it comes to talking about anything of any significance. You have first hand experience that should mean something. These people read an article and it somehow means more. A real downer especially running your own instance in the fediverse.
When you work at Amazon you have a shit load of coworkers.
how much of amazon consists of one’s coworkers
It’s true that one facility can’t account for others. I’d be curious to see real evidence all around the globe for the god awful treatment you read about. It just really is hard to believe after having worked there with seeing the utmost respect all around for the most part and safety pushed like a motherfucker (annoyingly so honestly). The complaints I was always involved in were lazy fellow coworkers and wanting more pay. I’m around $40/hr right now and still want more pay. You should always want more pay. You should also work your way up to it. Amazon provides tons of tools for educating yourself and leaving the company to head to an entirely different field. That’s what I did. If you’re going to be a replaceable baseline employee you need to treat it like a stepping stone and use everything they provide and leave. Or work your way up in the company and become irreplaceable.
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You have first hand experience that should mean something.
You would think, right? At the very least, generate a discussion instead of people just downvoting me and calling me a scab, or telling me that my first hand experience isn’t a proper source because some online video told them otherwise… yeah, I think I’ve had enough of it. Initially I thought Lemmy was better than reddit, or that it was like reddit when it first started, when genuine discussion was to be had, but it really isn’t… it’s the same shit as reddit today, just with less people on it.