• Apollo@sh.itjust.works
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    The principle of self determination is in the UN charter that you keep erroneously saying suggests the UK should hand over the islands because of.

    The other side of the coin of self determination is having the force to ensure that. Britain holds the ground, the people there want this to continue, and Argentina lacks the capability to force this to change.

    I am not being deliberately obtuse but its hard when its clear you have no clue what you are talking about. This thread is full of people telling you this but you just keep repeating the same nonsense.

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      The other side of the coin of self determination is having the force to ensure that. Britain holds the ground

      Russian holds the ground in parts of Ukraine, does that mean Russia should keep said land?

      Does the Israeli settlements in the occupied lands make the land Israeli land?

      Ownership is not going to be decided by us here, but to say that one country can just put their people there so the land is theirs now doesn’t make it legally so.

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        Sure what I said sounds like that, if you ignore the first half of the comment you are replying to.

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          Sure what I said sounds like that, if you ignore the first half of the comment you are replying to.

          Here’s the first and only sentence before the sentence I replied to …

          The principle of self determination is in the UN charter that you keep erroneously saying suggests the UK should hand over the islands because of.

          That has nothing to do with the questions I asked …

          The other side of the coin of self determination is having the force to ensure that. Britain holds the ground

          Russian holds the ground in parts of Ukraine, does that mean Russia should keep said land?

          Does the Israeli settlements in the occupied lands make the land Israeli land?

          I was asking specifically about your statement about “Britain holds the ground”.

          My point is just holding the ground is not enough to legally/ethically claim the land, especially if you’ve kicked out the people on said land that used to be there.

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        These are completely different situations, like how can you be so willfully ignorant. Falklands aren’t actively being invaded or in a war. Do you really wanna win this Internet argument so bad, that you gotta make some dumb shit up?

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          These are completely different situations, like how can you be so willfully ignorant. Falklands aren’t actively being invaded or in a war.

          I never said they were invaders/invaded, just that the land was being occupied/owned by one nation where another nation lays claim to that land, and if occupation alone is legal/ethically enough to ensure claim over the land. That’s it.