• 4am@lemmy.zip
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    2 months ago

    The solution is not to allow a system where capitalists can amass wealth exceeding small nations and exert control over society, Industry and government to do their bidding.

    Elon Musk has not done ANYTHING worthy of the wealth he has. Not Tesla, not PayPal, not SpaceX; nothing.

    These people are like unelected governments. I don’t see what’s so wrong about not wanting that.

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      The solution is not to allow a system where capitalists ANYONE can amass wealth POWER exceeding small nations and exert control over society, Industry and government to do their bidding.

      FTFY

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        2 months ago

        Yeah, I mean you’re technically right.

        The point is that capitalism is extra bad because it is designed to do this.

        The greatest crime ever committed is convincing people that capitalism is the reason they’re free. “These cell bars actually PROTECT you from the flood waters!”

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          It’s not designed to do that though. Limitations are applied to it in countries that aren’t ruled by the mob, like the US. Let’s not rule out social-democracy altogether here.

          EDIT: The deeper I dive into the link between capitalism/socialism and corruption, the more of a mindfuck it becomes. Even if money simply didn’t exist and there just was a state that managed and distributed all goods, what’s to stop some guy who works for the state from distributing himself 5 loaves of bread instead of 2 other than a lawyer and a judge? It’s almost like greed and corruption are in some people’s nature and nothing can be done to prevent it. Things can only be done to punish it. Best case scenario you catch someone in the act but can never prevent their intention from occuring in their brain. You can never fully remove the temptation. Some are just wired differently. Whoa… dude… that’s a bummer.

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          2 months ago

          IMO the nations who claimed not to be capitalists were the extra bad ones. Capitalism is just the default system in every nation, currently, its mid. Because the problems are not directly related to the economic system.

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        “Never believe that anti-Semites people like this guy are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites people like this guy have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

        Jean-Paul Sartre