• chitak166@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Ketamine is definitely up there with ‘hip’ drugs not worth trying.

    Along with MDMA and Xanax.

    I don’t really respect anyone who does these because they’re usually living a lifestyle that leads to nowhere.

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      11 months ago

      MDMA not worth it? It’s euphoria and love in a pill, not addictive, and quite safe when you do not abuse it. Millions of people use it and have been using it for about half a century and the vast majority of it restricts it to when they’re partying with few side effects. I think you misjudge its use a bit.

      Yes it can be acutely abused because you’re chasing the dragon on nights that you do use it, but that is also a result of its illegal nature and a lack of education.

      Of the chemical variants of drugs, I’d say it’s probably one of the few that is actually worth it, besides LSD.

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        Yeah, I try to tell people that there’s value in MDMA beyond just a night out dancing. My favorite times have been on a couch with friends, getting deep into one another and kind of exploring your minds. I’ve had some incredibly important and memorable conversations with people that I was able to become very close with because MDMA let us drop the walls and talk about things, which is something I cannot do face to face with someone sober. And I’m not an introvert by any stretch, I have no problem being the center of a conversation, I have no problem listening to others, but opening up about personal issues was something MDMA let me do, and say things I never could put into words.

        I’ve also stood in front of a wall of speakers and had bright lights and bass music thrown at me, and that’s also fun.

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      11 months ago

      You’d be shocked by how many very successful and incredibly intelligent people have used drugs (including MDMA). Many still use them regularly. MDMA, in the right setting and in moderation, can (will) be a life-affirming and beautiful experience.

      This honestly sounds like something a child would say after having D.A.R.E. in elementary school.

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          11 months ago

          I know people like this. Though I should probably define regularly as once every few weeks for k. Probably closer to like 2 to 4 times a year for MDMA. Obviously if you’re doing stuff every day then you won’t be productive in a job

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          10 months ago

          You literally just replied to one, my guy.

          And yes, I know plenty of people like that. And chances are, so do you. You just don’t know it.

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      11 months ago

      Hmmm, I don’t know the second one but mdma is great fun. Of course you have to be in a good state of mind before trying, but it’s a potent empathogen that has its uses.

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        11 months ago

        One of the most fun nights of my life is when I went to visit a friend at his university, we took some and he immediately ended up with some girl and disappeared on me.

        So I decided that I would just wander his campus looking for parties. I took shots with frat boys, danced with some gays guy out dressed in drag, played chess with some guy on the quad (he would have destroyed me even if I was sober), found another friend and went and partied with her and her lesbian friends (“wait you’re a lesbian now?” “Maybe not sure”) and then made the biggest mistake of my life when I turned down joining them when I was making a hasty exit after I noticed one of the girls was eating the other out right next to me on the couch.

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          11 months ago

          wild 😁 Yea I get how you’d want a do over heheh

          My experience is very vanilla coming after yours, but we had some of that and spent the entire night in my last floor apartment just chatting and drinking looking at the sea. It was full moon too. At one point I must have thought it was around midnight, I peeked at the east-facing window in my room and a big ball of fire was burning on the horizon. Time really flew this night…