• Ickyboo@lemmy.world
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    USA is trying to get rid of the ICC due to the fact Trumps worried they’ll go after him for all his war crimes and the fact that all his friends already have warrants for arrest. Ie Putin and Bibi

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    There has never been a country in history who has been the world’s lone superpower and top of the world order, that has worked so hard to destroy and reset the world order.

    Generally when on top you try and keep it that way, but this current American administration just wants to burn it all to the ground.

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    I don’t get the hate for Wong?

    I understand that labor is not left enough for fediverse users.

    She’s a diplomat though, she represents Australia to the world. It’s not her job to say mean things to the people you don’t like.

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    Mr Rubio said the administration had been pressing more countries to “join our campaign by ending their funding and participation in this politicised and unaccountable court” — something that Australia would not do.

    At least not until Israel tells us to.

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    Penny Wong will watch the U.S. crush the ICC while uttering the quietest “don’t” as they do. She is a coward and this is heartbreakingly unsurprising.

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      Just for reference to other countries-

      Penny Wong voted against gay marriage multiple times. She is a lesbian and took advantage of our Gay Marriage laws the second they were introduced (long story short- we have Goldman Sachs to thank for those laws, yes really…) but voted against them multiple times.

      Spineless doesn’t even begin to cover it.

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          That’s very specifically only counting after Malcolm Turnbull introduced the vote to parliament and forced both Labor and Liberals hands.

          Besides which, do you want politicians to vote according bro their constituents wishes or according to their own interests?

          The constituency was in full support of Gay Marriage, Penny ignored it for years since Labor is at their heart, the Catholic party.

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            LOL.

            It’s the way I say it is because reasons and any contrary information is a fabrication.

            Indeed.

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              Look at the votes, everything after 2016, she was there and voted Yes, before that she was absent every single vote and her party that was present voted 100% No.

              It’s well known here that Labor are spineless.

              Vote Greens. The party that voted 100% YES in every division.

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                The greens are so heavily slandered in Aus even mentioning them gets eye rolls. Breaks my heart, they are decent pollies and worth the ranked choice above Labor.

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          Yep, it’s why I’ve been voting Green and Senators to either block dogshit or pass decent stuff

          Unfortunately things overseas dictated our last election and gave Labor a huge majority. It’s shallow though.

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            Oh fuck off. We got away from bigoted crap in the Liberals. We still need to keep that festering mess out.

            A massive backlash against Trump shit is a good thing. Dont try to spin this to some idiotic conclusionm

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              Yeah nah Labor are piss weak and dogshit, and saying that isn’t endorsing the Coalition.

              Only thing more pissweak than a Labor politician is a Labor voter.

              In this case the massive backlash gave us a worse government than we could have had. Labors cowards have sold us out. Shove your opinion up your arse.

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        By backing it up with the government pulling out of AUKUS and cutting ties with Israel.

        The problem is that’s all there is and no spine to back it up with action. Same with gas and gambling companies. No spine.

        The country overwhelmingly wants action on it as well. Overwhelmingly.

        No problems taking on the disabled though.

        That’s what we want Labor to do.

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          I thought so. No answers just criticism because she didn’t show up with a “Free Palestine” shirt.

          I wonder how the foreign affairs minister from a liberal, national oor ON government would handle this?

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            Labor are not your mates, hey. Suggesting that Labor give a fuck about Palestine is repulsive.

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              That’s not what I suggested, nor what I asked.

              How would you like our foreign affairs minister to address this with a global super power on whom we are heavily dependent as one of our closest allies ?

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                You are playing the “Labor are epic legends” game though. Just because ON and LNP are ghouls doesn’t make Labor suddenly wonderful and it is not a failure to be publicly critical of an ally. The closest they have come to criticising an ally who is actively committing genocide is officially acknowledging that Palestinians and their rubble exist.

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                  I have et said anything like that, and it’s painfully obvious that you’re deflecting.

                  Given your criticism of Wong, I had thought that surely you would have some preferred strategy.

                  Instead it seems like you don’t really have e any idea what you’re talking about, other than “labor bad”

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    I hope they keep this energy up when someone else is in power.

    If the US is gonna be the world police they should be extra subject to the rule of law, just like the local police.*

    *Offer void in US

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      Can we actually not have them as the world police? They’ve been pretty shite at it and actually very corrupt. Kinda like their own police are.

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      Not even, we can’t be a Vegemite higher if we’re lapdogging

      It’s a national embarrassment.

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        We can’t really do much else unless we want to start spending 25billion+ per year on a completely independent defense apparatus.

        Unlike Canada who has NATO to fall back on, we have no one. We’re not and won’t ever be part of NATO (due to France).

        Though right now is probably the best time to restart ‘SEATO’ - Japan wants slight separation from US and South Korea is now moving full speed toward it. There has never been a better time for us to start an alliance with a view of becoming less dependent on USA.

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          SEATO as you put it would be fine with me.

          I don’t think we are as alone as you say and I’m not sure if the French would be as hostile as you think. They still have interests in forming a strategic partnership in the Pacific and I think they understand what went down with AUKUS.

          Whatever, but I’d rather we stood for something and opposed this and accepted the fallout that comes with it.

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          We’re not and won’t ever be part of NATO (due to France).

          Is France stopping Australia from moving to the North Atlantic?

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              What part of the North Atlantic is Turkey in?

              Turkiye is north of the tropic of cancer which is required in order to join NATO.

              And the only place Australia will fit is in the North Atlantic ocean so you better get to building some giant outboard motors and sail on up if you want to get in.