That’s not social democracy. That’s democratic socialism
No, democratic socialism believes capitalism is incompatible with their core values, so they wouldn’t tolerate as much of a gradualist approach. Social democracy is the gradualist approach, though whether that ends up as socialism or stays a some form of welfare state can vary across parties and individuals. So:
democratic socialism - socialism plus democracy
social democracy - democratic welfare state, with many supporting a gradual shift toward socialism
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Perhaps you should do the same.
I’ve tried to be very careful with the terminology I’ve used, and tried to make it very clear where the lines are. Your comments, on the other hand, seem to conflate terminology (leftist and socialist, for example) with no attempt to point me at actual sources to indicate where I was imprecise or wrong.
Regardless, we’re going in circles at this point, so I agree, there’s not much point to further discussion. I feel I have made my points pretty clearly with examples.
Nope, democratic socialism is trying to vote your way to socialism, somehow reaching socialism through liberal democracy. Alas, socialism is opposed to liberalism. Democratic socialism is a nonsense, fictitious political platform.
Socialism is already inherently democratic - perhaps fanatically democratic. “Socialism plus democracy” is as redundant as “sandwich plus bread”.
No, democratic socialism believes capitalism is incompatible with their core values, so they wouldn’t tolerate as much of a gradualist approach. Social democracy is the gradualist approach, though whether that ends up as socialism or stays a some form of welfare state can vary across parties and individuals. So:
Perhaps you should do the same.
I’ve tried to be very careful with the terminology I’ve used, and tried to make it very clear where the lines are. Your comments, on the other hand, seem to conflate terminology (leftist and socialist, for example) with no attempt to point me at actual sources to indicate where I was imprecise or wrong.
Regardless, we’re going in circles at this point, so I agree, there’s not much point to further discussion. I feel I have made my points pretty clearly with examples.
Have a fantastic day. :)
Nope, democratic socialism is trying to vote your way to socialism, somehow reaching socialism through liberal democracy. Alas, socialism is opposed to liberalism. Democratic socialism is a nonsense, fictitious political platform.
Socialism is already inherently democratic - perhaps fanatically democratic. “Socialism plus democracy” is as redundant as “sandwich plus bread”.