The mods of all the major communities there remove comments criticism Hexbear and usually follow it up with a ban. It’s absolutely clear what is happening and it shouldn’t be allowed to continue.

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    So what if it is the original? Bad moderation, combined with idolation of authoritarianism is some poisonous stuff.

    The question is if admins are willing to have an open conversation about the moderation and content.

    But deFederation is a fine solution. Then the admins on .ml have their way and they can have their little hermit kingdom without any dissenting views. And we can go on with out lives without their bile in our feeds and threads.

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      It’s crazy that people here want the most authoritarian measure to fight authoritarianism somehow…

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        What people, what authoritarian measure?

        You mean it is strange that sane, normal people want to stop authoritarian/totalitarian fanboys from spreading hatefull falsehoods, stifling dissent using bans and heavy moderation? By using the tools at their disposal and telling these smegheads to f- off? Plenty of speech is deemed unacceptable: holocaust denial, swatstikas, from the river to the sea, white power, just to name a few.

        Well if that is your idea of what should be acceptable, we disagree. The Overton window should remain in the middle and not be allowed to stretch to include these extremist views. Not from the “right” or “left”.

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          This thread is about de federating from lemmy.lm. Because some fascists here are on a witch hunt against some people from hexbear.

          It is literally telling everyone that either they defederate from hexbear or they defederate from lemmy.world.

          Typical trump diplomacy btw.

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            I think the issue is way bigger than hexbear, or maybe they are mask off on hexbear. But hexbear, lemmygrad and lemmy.ml can be their own little island archipelago for all I care. If this helps people not have to deal with these idiots.

            Keep calling everyone fascists and trump-ets, it does not help your argument.

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              You see, now you’re saving the people from the evil leftist propaganda.

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                No just from tankies that most likely are paid propaganda and dissent posters, is all.

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                  I think I’ve see two comments from tankies. Meanwhile I see fascists and radical liberals several times a week.

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              Gonna be real with you:

              I think it’s a bit wild that we’re still federated with instances that engage in censorship like this and have ideals that run counter to ours in so many ways. We literally have “No tankie shit” as an instance rule, yet we still let people like this spread their echo chamber nonsense through federation. You do realize that if they’re allowed to spread their ideology freely when we aren’t, that they have an advantage? “Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth” and all that good stuff.

              They have decided we aren’t worth listening to and their only reason they keep us around is to evangelize to. The fact I got an instance ban for this should be all the proof you need that discourse with these people is dead.

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              It’s funny how you picture this authoritarianism, and then this very thread is exactly about that : either you defederate from hexbear or you defederate from lemmy.world is the request here.

              I’ve seen far far more fascists on lemmy than I’ve seen tankies BTW.

              So you know maybe it’s lemmy.world that turned fascist and not lemmy.ml. Just food for thought here.

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            Tankies like you are the reason people think leftists like me call everyone they don’t like fascists.

            Hexbear is a fascist website. You are an idiot.

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              I’m not a tankie, and I see far more fascists than I see tankies. In fact I’ve seen maybe two tankies comments on lemmy while I see fascists several times a week.

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                  When people support a genocide I tend to consider them fascists. When they consider leftists to be extremist of fascist, they are usually fascist themselves. When they promote authoritarianism, intolerance, xenophobia,… When people talk about wokes or wokism, they’re usually fascists. When they support US imperialism.

                  Most fascists blind themselves though, and the propaganda picture anyone against the fascists as fascists.

                  The biggest lie to picture the left as fascist simply because they don’t support liberalism. Leftists have always been the first victims of fascism. That should give you a hint.

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                    Being mistaken about the nature of fascism or disagreeing with people on the left does not make someone a fascist. What definition of fascist are you using that allows that?