• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    6 个月前

    The UN passed a resolution for an immediate ceasefire like a week ago…

    It did as much as Biden’s hollow words will now.

    Cut of all aid and weapons sales to Israel and they might listen, anything else won’t do anything

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      anything else won’t do anything

      I mean the US could also introduce a peace keeping resolution, but that would require the consent of Israel, ain’t gonna happen. But at least it would be a strong message from the US.

      We all know they won’t even do that.

      It could introduce a peace enforcement resolution at the security council. It would no doubt pass since everyone else at the table has been calling for a ceasefire for months. It would be a great opportunity to bring the west and China together.

      We all know they won’t do that either.

      So no, other things would do things. The US executive branch just won’t do them.

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        If it’s anything more than incredibly mild criticism or ultra-vague accusations along with a wink and a nod, this Administration won’t do it.

    • sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works
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      I think the problem is that US invested heavily in Israel for many decads so its very difficult to do something that could result in Israel switching alliance

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        Israel does not benefit the U.S. in any way. We have NATO nations nearby and even bases in Kuwait. And that’s in addition to all the carriers in the Med. They offer no strategic advantage.

        We have no special financial investments with them. We do the same kind of trade we do with any other countries. A relationship with Israel offers us absolutely no financial benefit. None.

        Our relationship is a favor to them, motivated mostly by religious mythology about the christian end-times that U.S. politicians are obsessed with. It’s the dumbest of all possible reasons and no one will say it out loud in the news.

        We need to defund this shit. And we need to help the victims.

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        To who? They’re almost universally hated by any nation around them, they’ve only made it this far with the US government hemorrhaging cash and arms to maintain a foothold.

      • sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works
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        Russia comes to mind. They’d accept Israel if they could benefit from it. Also Bibi get to be a plain old dictator without worrying too much about response from western allies. In exchange Russia get access to lot of western tech.

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          Unlikely as Russia is heavily in bed with Iran.

          Israel is a giant liability. It really doesn’t do much except control news networks and bribe politicians.

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            But Russia only got “to bed” with Iran recently when Iran agreed to supply them with drones.

            Before Ukraine war, Russia didn’t care about Iran or North Korea.

            If Israel could supply Russia with more advanced drones / weapons, I assure you Russia would switch alliance in a blink of an eye

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        That’s part of it - they don’t want to lose their investment. The other part is that if they do stop propping up Israel, they know another country like Russia or China will happily fill the void and reap all the benefits of the influence in the region. The US could cut ties and not be involved at all but it’s not likely it would change much, unfortunately; Israel would just continue with new backers and the US would be in a worse position.

        Not that that justifies the war and all the weapon sales on the US’ part, of course. But I think, with that information, it’s easy to see why there’s some nuance to it, and why the US isn’t keen to sever ties or be too harsh a critic.