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        No qualms with rich white Detroit Kid Rock doing country but can’t have a black woman who grew up in Texas making country songs.

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        Almost like… radio stations are privately owned businesses that know it’s not a good idea to piss of their (very few remaining) listeners? Who gives a fuck what country radio stations are doing lol

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          Radio stations are in a privileged position of control over the scarce piece of radio spectrum they use to broadcast, and deserve to be regulated in exchange for that privilege.

          I’m not saying the FCC should force them to play Beyonce, but the “iTs a pRiVatE bUsINeSS” argument is 100% bullshit in this case.

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            …radio is regulated and the government can’t nor should be allowed to force media to play certain musicians.

            Let us be real, if a law like that is ever enacted, it won’t be to force country music listeners to listen to black artists, it will be to force black listeners to listen to Perry Como.

            Had idea all around.

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            Should radio stations be regulated? Yes (we both agree on this). Should those regulations include forcing them to play songs against their commercial interests? No (we also both agree on this).

            I genuinely don’t even understand what kind of argument you’re trying to make here.

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              I genuinely don’t even understand what kind of argument you’re trying to make here.

              I’m pointing out that the “it’s a private business” argument doesn’t apply. The radio station can choose not to play Beyonce because the FCC allows it to make that choice, not because it has some sort of inherent right to make that choice.

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                not because it has some sort of inherent right to make that choice

                The US legal system works on “all powers not explicitly stated to belong to [governing body] are not granted” so, yes, the radio station does have an inherent right to make that choice. The FCC doesn’t allow them that right. Rather, they don’t forbid them from it, which is completely different.

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                  No, that’s not true. The FCC explicitly has the power (as delegated by Congress) to regulate interstate commerce, which includes radio spectrum since radio waves cross state lines.

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      They are going to lose it even more when they watch the new Willie Nelson/Orville Peck video.

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      We don’t care. It wasn’t that good of a song. If it wasn’t for hype-fluff like this it would be forgotten already.

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      I heard all cowboys were Black. If they were white, they were called “cowhands.”

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        I’d love to see a citation on that because then I’d feel more comfortable repeating it, as it’s a pretty good fact if true

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          It’s something I had heard before but didn’t see an attribution (though the perjorative “boy” referring to Black men vs “hand” for white men seemed to me to give credence to the idea). The Rancho Los Cerritos Historic Site makes the same claim:

          Originally, White cowboys were called cowhands, and African Americans were pejoratively referred to as “cowboys.” African American men being called “boy” regardless of their age stems from slavery and the plantation era in the South. Many southerners moved to the West and westerners would have been familiar with southern racial etiquette. So, it is no surprise that the racial issues prevalent in the North and South were also impacting the American West.

          While they do provides sources for that blog post, they don’t directly attribute that statement to a particular work. However, this clip from PBS is an interview with Tyree A. Boyd-Pates, curator at the Autry Museum of the American West and he also states that “cowboy” would have referred to a Black cowhand.

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          just to tack on come context from wikipedia -

          ““Cowboy” was first used in print in 1725, and was used in the British Isles from 1820 to 1850 to describe young boys who tended the family or community cows.”

          not to say it might have taken on some racial connotations later (or, in fact, if we believe swift’s words literally), but i’m not sure it’s 100%.

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    I’m happy for her and all, but I feel this would be more impressive if it was anyone Else. Beyonce has a huge following and “The Hive” would help prop her up more than anyone else. Get your bag I guess.

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      My wife has played me some of the songs. The music is fine, if boring, but the lyrics… Amateurish would be the the kindest word I could use. I know pop musicians aren’t known for deep meaningful lyricism but Beyonce sounds like a middle schooler that did her poetry assignment the night before it was due. It’s honestly atrocious.

      Even the covers are kinda bad too, at least to me. Your mileage may vary on those. At least the guitar on Jolene is pretty good.

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      Speaking as someone who has actually given the music a fair shake (sorry, other guy), it’s actually really good. I wasn’t super feeling it on my first listen, but it just keeps growing on me with each new listen lol. You’re gonna get a lot of people that hate on it for the same reasons they do hip hop in general, or black women in general, especially because she’s moving into the country space, but I wouldn’t put too much weight on those opinions. It’s a great album (except the Post Malone feature lol). I think DAUGHTER is a standout track if you just want to sample it.