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    When the opponent is Trump, isn’t that exactly the right thing to do?

    FYI: Most of those braindead “am I not allowed to criticize Biden???” comments and posts on social media are a concerted effort by right-wingers from /pol and other such sewers, trying to get people to not vote against Trump. Don’t fall for it. These aren’t “lefties” or “tankies”. Just downvote, report, and ignore.

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        Election interference. Disguising yourself as the opposite side you’re on is not wanted on any platform.

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          Oh, I see. What if they call for vote in a third party, is that interference too?

          You guys are so afraid of Trump killing democracy that you’re willing to kill democracy to fight him. You are blind.

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            while not worth reporting, you have become the person in the comic, you are just assuming trump wont win and Biden is the opponent.

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              I’m not even American. In my country we can actually vote for who we want. Nobody can form a government against the majority.

              Think about my words:

              WE CAN ACTUALLY VOTE FOR WHO WE WANT

              You can’t. I understand your conundrum. But your solution is to accept it and to revoke your own vote. To revoke other people’s vote who don’t want Trump or Bidden.

              Don’t you see the obvious? Being forced to vote for Bidden for fear of Trump will just perpetuate the two party system. It will also keep sending the message that as long as the Republican party is scary enough then the Democratic party only has to be slightly better. Even if another party appears that represents better the will of the people it will stay blocked from power.

              This sends the message to both Democrats and Republicans that it is in their best interest to keep things the same or, even better, worse. As long as both sides are always terrified of the other they’ll always vote for “their side” as shitty a candidate they may be. You realize lots of GOP voters also dislike Trump but they see the other side as worse and Trump, in their eyes, is the prefered evil.

              This is not about this election. Both Trump or Biden will likely die in office. This is about YOUR future. And let me tell you, either way, unless you break this cicle, it’s a grim one.

              Nobody trusts the US anymore. As an European I’ll say we NEED a strong and righteous US but we’re coming to terms we won’t have one anymore and are slowly learning we have to fight our own way in the modern world. Pax Americana is over and you have only yourselves to blame.

              But instead of being honest with yourselves you just attack what little democracy you still have left. It’s sad in a shameful way.

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      You can’t vote “against Trump”. We’d have a better democracy if we could. I would love to have a vote of no confidence on the ballot.

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        Of course, there’s exactly one way to vote against Trump, but something tells me you’re a rightwing troll or some other kind of dishonest player.

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          Accusing everybody who doesn’t see things your way “rightwing trolls” does nothing but help rightwing trolls. When everybody seems to be one the real ones become invisible.

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            I’m not accusing everybody who sees things differently, only those people who repeat the same idiotic talking points about Biden.

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              You attacked a member of the Green Party for not voting for Biden.

              You’d burn down all the third parties out of fear for Trump and then complain when the Democrat President doesn’t give a flying fuck about you.

              Say everyone votes for Biden to keep Trump out. Why would Biden care about you? Why would he care what you want in a candidate? Why would he even bother to earn your vote? You’ll vote for him as long as there’s a Trump.

              All you’re doing is making sure all candidates get worse and worse. You are saying loud and clear you’ll eat every bowl of shit and take everything up the ass as long as it’s not Trump giving it to you. You are begging to be fucked.

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                Calm down, little guy. This isn’t Russia, you can choose who to vote for regardless of party affiliation. So you “endure” Biden for the next 4 years and then you vote for Mr Beast or Dua Lipa or whoever you stylers like. It will not be the end of the world, or maybe if you’re 12 (you sure sound like it), then 4 years might seem like a lifetime to you…but if you fail to vote against Trump, your cute little party will not exist in 4 years. This time though, all hands on deck against Trump, it’s not hard to understand.

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                  “Vote for Biden, or else”. Fear tactics at its best.

                  He doesn’t have to “endure” anyone. His vote is his, that’s it. Deal with it.

                  By the way, I’m 40. And the reason I tell you is because I’ve been listening for that “just this once” crap since I WAS 12.

                  20 years ago Bush Jr. was the antichrist. Now…he was not that bad. Trust me, you can have worse than Trump. A competent one. On either party. And that mindset is bringing it closer everyday, you’re just too blind to see it.

                  So be it. Every empire has to fall, I guess.

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                    “Why didn’t the Germans just come together in the Weimar Republic and all vote against the NSDAP when they still had the chance???”

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      “When the opponent is Biden, isn’t that exactly the right thing to do?”

      That’s what the other side is saying. You all should read Hans Herman Hoppe: The God that Failed.

      https://gvid.tv/v/QbkYpm