Looking at the meme about the Turkish Olympian, came a question. How do you bring weapon through borders ?
Sure for Olympian, it’s not a big deal, you may negotiate a “diplomatic suitcase” or have federation staff managing all the paperwork. But what about an amateur sport-shooter who want to travel to an event abroad. I imagine you can’t bring a gun to a plane, Do they just put them in the car and hope that nobody will check ? Do paperwork month in advance ?
There are specific visas for athletes that allow them to bring in regulation meeting sporting equipment.
Getting a firearm across country borders is not as hard as people think as long as you research the requirements of the countries you transit plus the airlines beforehand.
Some countries will have conflicting laws though.
From memory importing a firearm out of the UK requires the case to be stickered as contains a firearm where as US laws are the case mustn’t show it contains firearms. (My info on this may be out of date)Also US law require it to be in a securely locked protective case that can only be opened by the owner.
Also US laws require all luggage to be opened with the universal TSA key that is both as secure as a toddler’s toy safe lock and easily available to the public.
Firearms are special and you don’t use TSA locks with them.
And the TSA is not supposed to open them. Shit gets stolen like that and the ATF gets really really pissed.
While true, it definitely depends on your particular TSA team. I have flown multiple times with firearms within the US, and normally TSA follows their own rules pretty well. However, I have had TSA DEMAND my key so they could open the case outside of my presence. When I protested and gave them the handout of their own procedures, the guy said “you can give me the key, or you don’t get on your flight.”
When I protested and gave them the handout of their own procedures, the guy said “you can give me the key, or you don’t get on your flight.”
They did that to me once and when the Agent showed up at my gate with that line I replied that I was happy to tag along back to the case and open it for them. The Agent took me the back way through the service halls to their area where I opened my case and they did their inspection, then they brought me back to the gate through the service halls.
The agent wasn’t happy about it but I stayed cool with 'em and they made it work.
I offered to do the same and was literally scoffed at, then reprimanded for my audacity. It was a really fucking shitty experience.
Yea TSA can be a bunch of dicks.
Ah, America
Oh! I actually can personally answer this one. I’ve been a competitive air gun and rimfire .22 LR for years and even attended college on a rifle program scholarship at a D1 program (yes! The US has a major collegiate rifle program)
Traveling internationally depended much on where you were going. We competed at the international junior Olympic championships just outside of London one year in the UK. We had to package all ammo and firearms separately, in locked containers which ultimately wasn’t that big a deal. As with flying with firearms in the US, it ultimately comes down to how familiar those such as gate agents and check-in staff are at the airport with their country’s firearm travel laws. Flying out of the US was always easy as they’re used to firearms, but flying back to the US was sometimes a nightmare and we’d get to the airport up to 6 hours before a flight to deal with any BS.
Out of curiosity, could you share which are some of the bigger schools for collegiate shooting? I’ve never heard of any having such a program.
And quite a few more!
Army, Navy, Air Force academies each have their own D1 rifle programs as well.
Thank you for taking the time!
The simple answer? You declare it at customs and make sure to follow the relevant laws.
Any questions you might have can be answered by the appropriate embassy/state department. It’s part of the job, after all.
One thing to note. Always, always clear out your bags- everything you’ll be taking and pack them carefully. Make sure not to have anything that would be illegal to where you’re going; even if it’s legal where you are. (And this includes countries you’ll pass through.)
You will be searched and more than likely it will be found. You don’t want to be the next Britney Griner only to find out that you’re not enough of a superstar to illicit media interest.
It was bullshit that she was arrested for something stupid, but she did break their laws, and it’s also bullshit that she got out of it just because she was some semi-well-known athlete. Oh, and it’s bullshit that an arms dealer got released to secure her return. She really fucked up.
Idk about internationally, but you can check a firearm on US domestic flights. You just declare it, and check it in as baggage. These guns for the Olympics are air pistols, so the policies are probably pretty lenient in most countries.
Hunters fly with firearms sometimes. It just depends on the customs regulations. I’ve seen it at the airport. You check the bag and declare it. I’m sure there’s some amount of paperwork, depending on the country.
