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They won’t be happy until we are all gay.
Christians want everyone to be Christian, they want Christian schools, they want a Christian nation, so they project that gay people want all the same things. That gay people want everyone to be gay, have gay schools, a gay country, etc. It’s all projection.
I want everyone to be gay.
It worked, I’m gay
Excellent. The plan is working.
The Gay Agenda strikes again!
Woah! Suddenly I’m gay! What happened!?
Oh wait I just remembered I’ve been gay since 5 yrs old.
What happened when you were five?
They became gay, of course
What, bi isn’t good enough?
i think your kinda lumping alot of people in to a group. people are people, it doesnt matter what religion, race or ethnicity. People will abuse power be hateful and do stupid things. saying one group of people want one thing and one thing only is bias and projection and stereotyping upon your part
May as well give up on these people, they aren’t capable of nuance.
The funniest part to me though is they’re saying all these wild things about how Christians feel about gay people yet I rarely experience it myself. But daaaaamn the moment I mention I’m also a Christian they full-on seethe.
It’s bigotry and they’ve fully embraced it.
I am Christian (I’m not out to go modify non-Christians though and have a lot of misgivings about the way other Christians have been approaching the topic) and have been in the church basically my whole life and can echo what u/BarqsHasBite stated. The big fear from their end is LGBTQIA+ folks “converting” the children to change the nation. Spend enough time looking at liberal-based news (I imagine you don’t want to, that’s fine but it needs to be said) and you’ll see lots of examples of Christian vitriol against LGBTQIA+ in a very un-Christ-like manner. If you’re not seeing it around you, you’re lucky.
“It’s bigotry and they’ve fully embraced it.”
As a Christian talking to a Christian, I’m astounded you don’t understand the nature of the culture war going on. One side views homosexuality as a horror that needs to be snuffed out, and the other side views it as a major component of their person that is inseparable. One side wants homosexuality to die and the other side views that as a threat against their person. One side is using the Republican party to attack availability of transgender services that a good chunk of the other side relies on to live because they have followed their gender dysphoria through to personal body modification.
You and a lot of other Christians in this country need to stop with the persecution claims and crawl out from under your rock and have some open dialogue with your fellow Americans or citizens of whatever country you’re in and stop cowering behind your pride and ego. It’s fair to be viewed with mistrust when others of your faith are attacking what they are standing for. We are being intolerant of their choices and then crying intolerance and that is plain idiotic.
The person you’re responding to, Eleazor, just commented to me a week later: “I’m sorry but yes, you should consider bottom surgery mutilation. There’s a difference between the other things but I’m sure you’re missing it.”
Damn crazy how your anecdotal experience doesn’t change what the majority of christians stand for
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That isn’t nuance, it’s unhinged rambling about stuff I never said, at all. I especially didn’t “cast stones on the queers”. I’m gay, I wouldn’t do that. I cherish gay rights and gay marriage deeply.
I also don’t think sexual or gender identity, or religion, is a baseline for someone doing something that horrible.
Girl, the only thing I don’t tolerate is intolerance. Look that shit up in between you bible verses about slavery and killing fig trees and shit.
No, this is all you projecting your persecution fetish onto people you most likely never interact with. Pretty bigoted take honestly.
The very opposite is in fact true. I’m gay and go to a Christian church, they speak of love and acceptance for all. If there are actually any who fit your explanation they’re an incredibly small minority that actual Christians disagree with.
You must be going to one of those Heresy churches like Unitarian or something.
Cuz lemme tell you I’m from “da souf” and love and acceptable are curse words in the typical southern church. All fire all brimstone and the gays gonna get ya as well as the blue hair demon rats.
You had your more lib churches there and goddamn you might as well went to the Satanic Temple cuz theyd probably treat you better (misguided vs absolute heretic).
Tbh everything good about religion can be replaced with the simple golden rule and idk spirits n shit.
Golden rule being “don’t be an asshole”?
‘treat others as you want to be treated’
Unless you’re a masochist.
Southern Florida, Christian church. The only time I’ve encountered anyone like what your describing has been at pride parades, ironically.
I believe you’re greatly over-exaggerating their existence because you hate all religious people and are trying to convince yourself you’re not a bigot when you obviously are.
The majority of people on Earth are religious. You’ll find “replacing” their beliefs to be impossible. Perhaps you should consider being more tolerant instead of living in a hateful fantasy world.
Get a construction job and tell them youre gay -_-
I did that when i was stupid, then i accidentally did it at another job. Working at a new job and nobody knows. Miraculously they arent following me around and writing me up for the smallest mistake. Everyone likes me because theyll go on their trump rant and i just say “uh huh”
Im not allowed to say what i think though. That would make me a bad worker.
Ugh. I’m sorry you have to deal with that ignorant shit.
I spent years in southern Florida and can confidently say that this person has either been beyond sheltered for their entire life until this exact comment section, or they’re lying to make a bad faith argument. Most people I met there have the kind of political views you’d expect from someone that likes DeSantis, and will make sure you’re very aware of that.
You must have never met any gay people here before then because I can’t think of anyone I know who supports DeSantis.
I don’t know why anyone would assume that living here automatically means you do. That’s not true for any state. My area is also incredibly diverse, I’m sorry but your experience sounds fictitious to me.
I can’t think of anyone I know who supports DeSantis.
How did he get elected then? I’m happy for you that you live in a bubble of diversity, tolerance, and equality, but maybe you should give some thought to those in your state who don’t.
Really incredible to claim their experience fictitious immediately after saying you live in a diverse area
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Uhh what? You completely misunderstood me. I was referring to people that show up to protest pride with hateful signs and megaphones. I’m being genuine here.
People are allowed to disagree with you and your beliefs without them being a bigot.
Also, your Bible hates you, who is the one living in a fantasy world?
More bigotry huh? Yawn.
It’s great that you have found a church that works for you. However, it is Christian evangelicals that are driving the US headlong into authoritarian right wing politics age the demonization of LGBTQ+ groups and individuals.
You also don’t get to say, “those people are not real Christians because they believe differently to me.” They are real Christians.
I encourage you not to internalize something that doesn’t apply to you. Instead maybe look to the behavior of your fellow believers as to why your religion gets criticized, and even call them out for their shitty beliefs and actions.
Bro, I don’t know how you missed this, but your church is the minority among Christians. I come from a large Christian family so I’m not saying that as someone who hates Christians, I’m saying that as someone with two eyes and common sense. And I’m also someone who is not straight so I’m also speaking from experience myself. Christians who ignore these issues within their community are only enabling them. I get that you feel defensive about your religion because it’s a part of who you are so an attack on it feels like an attack on you, but if you really care about it then you should be motivated to work on improving it so it can live up to your love for it, instead of getting mad at people for being rightfully unhappy about a group that has a long, long history of abusing lgbt people, and which hasn’t exactly done a lot in recent years to improve their reputation.
Ribbit
Not even that elaborate tbh, pretty standard operating procedure for these “people” tbh.
I’m glad your Christian church is open and affirming. So is mine. If there’s LGBTQ+ people out there who would like to try going to an open and affirming church, I can recommend UCC.org
But we can’t and mustn’t deny that a lot of Christian churches have been and absolutely still are hateful towards people who are LGBTQ+ and force them to try to hide or deny their identity. The mealy-mouthed “Love the sinner, hate the sin” means they’re just trying to deny their own sin by pretending they aren’t breaking “and love thy neighbor as thyself.” To just say such people and churches are not “actual Christians” is denial at its laziest and enables them to continue unchecked.
And don’t get me started on whole denominations that refuse to allow women to fill positions of power such as pastor or priest. They’re not going to be ordaining any trans people either.
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They won’t be happy until we are all gay.
Nice quote I’ve heard literally nobody say before this post. What’s your point? I’m speaking from experience when I say these views are wildly unpopular among Christians.
‘Homophobic Christians arent a thing’ isn’t the hot take I thought I’d see on lemmy, but there it is.
The person you’re responding to, Eleazor, just commented to me a week later: “I’m sorry but yes, you should consider bottom surgery mutilation. There’s a difference between the other things but I’m sure you’re missing it.”
Nah, didn’t say that. Wildly unpopular though, yes.
Then how come they’re all you see on the national stage? Why are all of the “deeply religious Christian” charlatans backed by the Republican Party and their base?
It isn’t unpopular. I wish it was. It’s a twofold task though to make them unpopular. Christians need to decry the homophobic and bigoted “Christians” to create internal pressure while others create external pressure.
As someone who lives in a southern town surrounded by “Christians” that would definitely be going to hell if they believed even the smallest fraction of what they pretend, your stance is ridiculous.
Homophobic Christians are so common it’s crazy. I don’t know what sort of luck you have lol, or whether you just live life with your head in the sand.
Transphobic ones are even more common. The person you’re responding to, Eleazor, just commented to me a week later: “I’m sorry but yes, you should consider bottom surgery mutilation. There’s a difference between the other things but I’m sure you’re missing it.”
Bruhhh
Then they need to stop voting for people that hold these views.
Bro, get a real hobby, go outside make some friends, stop wasting your life doing this shit.
Glad your accepting christian church took my rights to safe medical procedures in the event of an unviable pregnancy. Bunch of christians I have never interacted with felt fine doing that to me. So I feel fine hating them
but go on claim you think abortion is murder while advocating against sex education, the thing proven to reduce abortions - and for abortion-bans, which don’t reduce abortions at all, and increase deaths in child-birth. Maybe I’m starting to think that you’re the murderer.
Leviticus 18:22 ~ You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination
I’m glad you found a church that doesn’t teach the Bible.
Who cares who it was “truly” written and who cares if the word “homosexuality” isn’t literally in the Bible? The King James Bible, which was written in 1622, is the most commonly-used English language Bible and it’s unapologetically anti-gay (ironic, since James himself was gay).
And I call bullshit on the Leviticus part. Firstly because putting the young boy to death as well makes no sense and secondly because I would find it hard to believe that ancient Jews who had over 600 laws about what you shouldn’t be doing were just fine with the gay stuff.
The King James Bible, which was written in 1622, is the most commonly-used English language Bible and it’s unapologetically anti-gay (ironic, since James himself was gay)
It was also a translation of the original Hebrew, which we’re learning in recent years was full of errors.
putting the young boy to death as well makes no sense
Where…does it imply that in the text?
I would find it hard to believe that ancient Jews who had over 600 laws about what you shouldn’t be doing were just fine with the gay stuff.
It’s absolutely possible, even if not necessarily true. Multiple historical accounts imply much of the anti-gay stuff was falsified or only in specific communities.
I think this is a dangerous rabbit hole to go down. The vast majority of religions cherry-pick from their religious texts. Arguing that Christians fundamentally can’t be tolerant of gay people because of Leviticus is basically conceding them to hatred. It’s also an argument frequently used by the right to spark hatred Western minority religions like Islam because the Qu’ran says a lot of messed up stuff like the Bible does.
There are Christian denominations that openly accept gay people and I don’t think it’s wise to claim they aren’t “real” Christians because of a few passages from a text written by dozens if not hundreds of people that already contradicts itself repeatedly.
I’m sorry but I simply disagree. Hypocrisy needs to be called out and the absurdity of religion needs to be called out.
The fact that this guy’s church is nice to gays does not make up for the hate and death religion has brought to the gay community.
I’m pointing out the ridiculousness of a church that’s pro gay, while I also point out the evil of churches that are anti gay.
I don’t have to pick the lesser of two evils becuase they are both evil, lying and manipulative.
Most likely never interact with?
You mean the same people writing laws against abortions or against trans people? They’re coming for gay people next, I guarantee you that much.
Wait, the last one was 1 star?
That’s the one that sold me on it.
Right? “May cause bisexual yearning” is supposed to be a warning?
Brother, I got news for you. If you are feeling bi-sexual yearning, it’s not because you watched a movie.
Oh don’t worry, I’m not confused: I’m reveling.
And we love that for you.
Same. Pink acid trip, you say? I am intrigued.
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Grown? Yes. Men? Ehhh…
“They won’t be happy until we are all gay.” I thought Barbie and Ken were the quintessential straight couple? I haven’t watched the film but that is so odd.
Fellas, is it gay to be in a straight relationship?
Once back in high school, I was walking down the hall with a female friend of mine, and some dumb redneck yelled, “HEY! LOOKIT THE F***T WITH HIS LESBIAN GIRLFRIEND!” I almost died laughing.
“Yes I’m gay. Gay for dat pussy!”
🤣
Not gay, but you literally want to be in the body of a woman. Can’t tell me that’s not LGBT.
That’s why the straightest thing to do is to fuck another dude, no feminity to make you gay
Listen to classical tradition, they knew what they were doing
Also, a man crossdressing as a woman is the manliest thing he can do because women can only regularlydress as a woman.
Well, straight girls like dick, and liking dick is gay, so yeah.
Margo Robbie is on screen but I can’t stop staring at Ryan Gosling’s toned body and soft face. This makes me uncomfortable and it’s the movie’s fault.
Stupid sexy Gosling.
I just saw the movie. There is nothing gay about it, unless a shirtless Ryan Gosling is too much for the commenter to repress.
I found this while looking at reviewsWho the hell wants children to grow up to be vile beings and why would you give them ideas? What a terrible concept.
No respect for anyone but themselves was the telling part, though. Let’s help others, homeless, less fortunate, immigrants, poor. Let’s help others with healthcare, education, housing, food. “No! I’m not paying taxes so someone else can get something for FREE!”.
Ok, now I know who they are talking about.
That fourth quote is legit quality.
“Confusingly attractive” tells you this person is avoiding some introspection.
No im very bisexual and would describe everyone in that film as confusingly attractive, I get its the point, but they all look very fake and plastic to the point its just on the edge of the uncanny valley.
“Attractive people in absurd situations.” — Samantha Carter Stargate SG-1
I haven’t seen the film or read this review, so I find it very possible that it was lifted out of context or maybe from someone who isn’t a native speaker. Because the context I immediately assumed is that their attractiveness is confusing because mattel is virtue signaling about body acceptance and diversity in the entire film, and yet all the characters are of course conventionally attractive, and makeuped to shit. This though is based on an assumption of what the film is about to be fair.
sheit, i’m not convinced this is isn’t an official effort driven by the studio to promote the movie by some viral means
this is some genius fuckin advertising if it is, and it’s hilarious free advertising if it isn’t
That’s exactly what this is.
- Make some piece of mass media.
- Use it to drive outrage and division.
- Make mass media headlines about outrage and division.
- Profit.
Consume, consumer!
If the men writing that crap didn’t want tge world to know they were dumb fucks, I’d call this a Streisand effect
That last one just sounds like a compliment. An acid trip and I get to hang out with absurdly attractive people? Sounds fun.
The amount of gay people in this movie is how much? The Kens are straight, but very secure in their masculinity
It was a suprisinhly good movie. Kinda sad by the lack of nuclear bombs though
What does “confusingly attractive” mean? What’s the lemmy equivalent of r/iamverysmart?
It means that if you ever find me, Margot Robbie, attractive in any way, shape or form, you are now gay, and you must support the gay agenda and LGBT rights immediately.
Sorry, but I don’t make the rules.
This post is the reason I looked up the trailer. After watching that and seeing the second search result, I’ll definitely be watching the movie when it’s available to stream.
Fucking algorithm :/
I saw that you mentioned Ben Shapiro. In case some of you don’t know, Ben Shapiro is a grifter and a hack. If you find anything he’s said compelling, you should keep in mind he also says things like this:
This is what the radical feminist movement was proposing, remember? Women need a man the way a fish needs a bicycle… unless it turns out that they’re little fish, then you might need another fish around to help take care of things.
I’m not a bot, but please don’t take Ben Shapiro seriously.
“Furious Men”
Yeah, because bigot women don’t exist, do they
EDIT: Thanks for the 19 downvotes and a total of one person caring to articulate. I love civil discussion.
I don’t know why one implies the other doesn’t exist. The fact is there are a bunch of MRA dudes very pissed off that a movie about a toy they likely never played with dares to be in theaters. And the things they say about it are amusing.
What I’m saying is, it’s an anonymous site. That person has no way to tell the gender of those reviewers, but they assumed it was men anyway.
I think it’s a fair assumption. I also think it doesn’t really matter since this is Lemmy Shitpost.
It’s really not. Especially considering how feminists are always (oftentimes rightfully) complaining about gender assumptions, they definitely shouldn’t do that themselves. It wasn’t even necessary, “from furious men” could’ve been removed altogether and the comment would’ve conveyed the same feeling, without the pointless sexism.
Also yes, it’s Lemmy Shitpost and the post fits, I was “complaining” about the original author.
