(No, just keep on. These kinds of regulations were long overdue)

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    EU has its many flaws but they pretty much doing their job in regards of consumer rights, human rights and protection of personal data.

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          If Article 17 (Upload filters) didn’t make it through I cannot see chat control making it (even tho I think we shouldn’t even let it get so far)

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            The worst part about chat control is that they proposed it without having a single clue as to how this would be set up, let alone managed and controlled.

            Them not being able to give clear answers to absolutley valid and fair questions just breaks more trust in their competence.

            Anyway, next I’d like them to ban anything that can be considered factory new e-waste, like cheap usb fans that break after a month, or keychain speakers that don’t even sound good. There’s so many things in production that just don’t have any business existing.

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              Yeah, it was the same way with upload filters… Me and the boys were protesting, experts were saying it wouldn’t work yet the EU politicians kept being stubborn…

              Yeah, I think they should ESPECIALLY ban these non refillable vape sticks… I mean, the batteries are practically unused yet it’s more or less useless after being emptied. And there’s always the refillable option. (No vapes would be best, get off that sh***)

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      Human rights? Lol I wish, frontex is just waiting to start shooting migrants at the borders

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        Unpopular opinion: most migrants come to Europe from safe countries. We should absolutely 100% allow people who flee from war zones to take refuge in Europe. But most migrants who currently cross the border illegally are coming from places like Turkey or Morocco. Is there a war tearing these countries apart that I do not know about? I agree, asylum is a human right, but it’s just that: a right. It’s not an obligation. People abuse that right and then complain they’re not handed stuff on a silver plate.

        If Europe went to war right now, like in the good old days, I’d flee to safety as well. No doubt about that. But I’d be happy to take refuge in the nearest safe country, not try to get into Canada illegally, just because I heard it’s a nice place to live.

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          That’s not an unpopular opinion, that’s just a sheltered opinion. A few things you need to get out of your head:

          1. That so called ‘safe countries’ are safe for everyone. This doesn’t say anything about those countries, it only says how little you know about them.
          2. People seek asylum trivially and are choosy beggars for going to X country (doesn’t matter where, this kind of sentiment is always the same)
          3. Europe going to war was ‘the good old days’.
          4. That Europe isn’t at war right now
          5. The act of being born in a ‘safe country’ makes you more deserving of it than other human beings
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          Most people come from Turkey or Morocco? They might come from there but most of the asylum seekers nationality is not Turkish or Moroccan. Most asylum seekers are from Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq or poorer African nations. This changed year by year of course but that’s generally true. Also of course EU states have an obligation to respect human rights, it’s literally law in the European convention of human rights. A right implies an obligation by somebody else to honor that right. What does it matter if your home country is at war or not? If you can’t feed your family due to economic problems or climate change or whatever, it’s more than fair enough to get out of there.

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      THE PERSON THAT DOWNVOTED THIS DESERVES THEIR AIRPODS TO RUN OUT OF BATTERY DURING A 12 HOUR FLIGHT SITTING NEXT TO A CHILD AND THEIR CHATTY NO-VAX-MAKING-MY-OWN-BREAD-LOOK-AT-THE-PICTURES-OF-MY-C-SECTION-DELIVERY MOTHER

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        I’m with you. I still use my 3.5mm jack daily. I’ve got some cheap PC stereo speakers next to my bed, so I can listen to stuff to fall asleep to. They suck for music, but are just fine for audiobooks for instance.

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          I gotta say, I love my AirBuds sooooo much. I only use my nice cans on my computer anymore.

          That’s a different use case though. Falling asleep with cheap speakers is a much better idea than big speakers… My partner and I leave shows or long VODs on to sleep, and even with the bass all the way down, sometimes I feel like it’s a bit distracting.

          You’re onto something—I should snag us a pair of 2.0 speakers and just switch to those for sleep. Then we wouldn’t have to adjust the sub all the time.

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          3.5 works everywhere else and I prefer my headphones to work with my audio gear. The inflight entertainment on Delta uses 3.5 for example.

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        It takes 5 minutes at most to get another hour of playback from my headset. You do not need a headphone jack in this day an age, and I say this as an avid music listener. Also ANC won’t work if your battery is dead most of the time, so having a wired option is not that useful for your flight

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          Nobody is implying that Bluetooth headphones are inherently bad, but just that the additional choice offered by a wired headphone option would be very useful.

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          IT TAKES 0 SECONDS TO HAVE ∞ HOURS OF PLAYBACK FOR MY HEADSET.
          Talking seriously, I really hate that everything in this day and age has to come with a battery: it’s a useless waste of resources.
          When you buy a good set of cabled earphones it will be good for life (I used my AudioTechnica M50 for more than 10 years and only had to change the cable once), wireless you’ll have to throw them away when the batteries will eventually die (in 3 years on average).
          E-waste is a serious issue, if you want to go green, go cable <3

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            Okay so I go running quite often, no phone on me, just my watch (which is on my wrist) and my AirPods.

            How does your setup work in my regard? Because I genuinely don’t see a way to go cabled for it without changing how I do things, and having a cable running to my watch is just stupid.

            (I do use wired headphones whenever I’m at home because we all know it’s better at a fundamental level) but let’s be honest AirPods have their place.

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              Dude…

              1. Never said that bluetooth buds/earphones should be dismantled, please abandon this “if you have an argument for your thing it means you’re against my thing” mindset, it makes you sound dumb and you are not;
              2. Back in the 90’s joggers would run with huge-ass cassette walkmans powered by 4x AA batteries strapped on their shorts and hardly anyone popped an hernia or got strangled by the earphones: while we had great achievements in terms of electronics wearability, don’t let comfort be your cage.
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    User expandable/replaceable storage, please.

    There’s no reason whatsoever that a 2TB iPad should cost £1250 more than a 128GB one. I put an extra 2TB in my PS5 the other week for under £100.

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    Reminder: Steve Jobs was a non-engineer, non-designer Marketing guy who was famously against charity and refused to pay child support despite being mega rich.

    He didn’t create the I-anything. He took what talented people did and made himself the face of it. He was a bad dude, a model capitalist, and the world is better for his preventable, self-inflicted early demise. Thanks for being into alternative “medicine” at least, Steve.

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      He went to Switzerland to try the proton therapy to cure cancer. When you know how expensive it’s, he could help a lot of people.

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      He went to Switzerland to try the proton therapy to cure cancer. When you know how expensive it’s, he could help a lot of people.

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      You sound like if Steve Jobs fucked your mom and never called her back X’D

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    Please tell me that there’s a Lemmy community out there for EU memes.

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    “Your honor, the apple vision pro was specifically designed to be used inside a small sailing ship.”

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    Something that I haven’t seen mentioned on this topic:

    having a spare charged battery with you also have so much more sense than carrying a powerbank. No losses transferring power to phone, no excessive heat, MUCH lighter.

    This is what we have for radios (walkie-talkies), drones, cameras, but not for phones, where we really need this.

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      We’re not necessarily talking about “pop the back open and slam a new one in” batteries a la Nokia 3310, but rather being able to replace a battery at the end of its lifecycle without special expertise and tools, but still, with some amount of effort required.

      That’s the requirement at least, but companies are of course free to choose either approach.

      According to a draft version of the ecodesign regulation on the EU’s website, batteries should be replaceable “with no tool, a tool or set of tools that is supplied with the product or spare part, or basic tools.”

      https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/24/23771064/european-union-battery-regulation-ecodesign-user-replacable-batteries

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    Apple isn’t losing here. Eu is forcing them to make better phones.

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      Um, what? Apple makes shitty design decisions to manipulate their consumer base. These regulations prevent them from doing that. These regulations mean the consumers win. Apple still has branded braindead consumers, but at least they went be able to scam them on batteries headphones and chargers as easily.

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    Look, I’m happy about the EU regulating these things and think it’s great for the overall ecosystem. But can we please stop with the “Apple users are braindead” circlejerk? It’s so fucking cringe, and it unironically reminds me of the unebearable zeal that Apple cultists used to (and probably still do but I see it less) impose on anyone who made the mistake of getting to close to them.

    I’ve had many Android phones over the years, and one iPhone 8. While I am considering moving to a de-Googled Android for privacy reasons, I have to say, my iPhone has held up better than any of my Android phones (Galaxy S3, S4, LG G3) did, without needing to replace the battery. Just because you can’t understand why someone might want one doesn’t mean everyone who gets an iPhone is an idiot.

    I would much rather have left this kind of tech chest-beating over at reddit.

    Edit: This was directed more towards the community as a whole and to the commenters I’ve seen saying this kind of thing in this thread and most other threads like it in lemmy/reddit. The original post by OP isn’t really what I was responding to.

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      Those who are still on the ‘apple bad’ train like to forget they are running an OS built by an ads company.

      Every phone manufacturer has some bad shit, I choose to stick with apple cuz I already have a big library of paid stuff.

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        Excuse you, I use CalyxOS on my phone. I also use Linux on my PC. Am I allowed back on the “apple bad” train? Tbh, I don’t think Apple products are bad. I just hate the company, just like many MANY others.

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        I’ve been flashing custom firmware on my phone since before Android was a thing, I’ll have you know my OS is built by dodgy Russian hackers installed on a dodgy Chinese phone, thank you very much.

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    At least the EU protects consumers’ rights, which is a breath of fresh air and it is something to be appreciated. Not going to lie.

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      For a second I was thinking about chromebooks because you can’t install native packages and only install apps from Play Store. Till I remember that you can enable app-dev mode to install any .apk (sideload). But does it count? I need to enable dev-app mode which can’t be reverted. Additionally it annoys you on the lock screen with a red text that this chromebook has unverified packages. You can always enable it without any further downsides.

      But at least you can install natively Linux on any Chromebook like a normal x86 Laptop or ARM64 Device.

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            For all the iphones getting updated in 2024 although they mentioned with iOS 17. In EU. Dunno if Apple will extend the thing outside Europe.

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      You just said it means nothing, then explained what it means. Why is it unfortunate that apple will need to put UBC C on the single device that still doesn’t have it FROM THEIR OWN LINEUP.

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        Waterproof devices are excluded from having to have replaceable batteries. Just FYI

        Also, newer android phones don’t have replaceable batteries either. So why always bitch about just Apple?

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            Ahh, yes, true, under a new, upcoming regulation. Should read more news. ;-) thanks for painting that out!

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              Wow, a sincere, thankful reply. This place is indeed a lot better than reddit, isn’t it? I’ll have to get used to this type of internet