Just a little rant. When I first visited Lemmy Sites a couple of months ago it felt empty. Besides the really mainstream community pretty much everything else just felt empty.
Meanwhile though traffic has increased a lot and I feel well entertained by the traffic in c/hfy c/noncredibledefence c/keepwriting c/worldbuilding and so on. It is certainly less than Reddit but often quality is substancially higher and is “enough” to keep me entertained.
Also I like that you can actually post something without running into a bazillion deletes, bans and moderator shitshat because your post was two words to short, not NCD enough and so on.
Sure, the C64 community on Lemmy is laughable. So is the ARMA community. I still use REddit for that. Also I often check up stuff on r/hfy and r/NCD but since one week I have been prefering Lemmy for that.
Also my longer posts don’t get eaten up any more. God, three weeks ago most posts with 3k an more just got lost without feed back. Nowadays I have even manges posts around 20k without breaking them up. Though the editor is still lacking for longer posts. On Reddit I can copy-paste pretty much anything from Libreoffice into Reddits Editor (which is also pretty lacking but differently lacking). On Lemmy I have to run most text through a little perl script to get them even using correct line breaks perl -pe ‘s/\n/\n\n/’ and different sizes for Headlines are much to few to select from.
Not perfect, not even very good but definitely promising.
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Lemmy just needs to stop talking about itself so much. The only reason I still use Reddit is because I find fresher and more varied content there. Lemmy users need to provide more content than just the fact that they are on Lemmy.
Lol it’s a new community. I actually find it interesting to see other people’s opinions about it. I don’t mind seeing every 15th post being about Lemmy itself. That won’t last for more than a few months at most…
I hope so. I find some excellent content here but I still need to sift through tons of Lemmy circlejerk to find it.
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Same thing on mastodon, most posts are about Twitter and how they hate it. Really annoying and not the reason I want to use the service
The best thing people who want Lemmy to succeed can do is post original, non-meta content to communities.
Of course !fediverse@lemmy.world is inherently meta.
I am the content!
I’m regularly seeing hundreds of comments on posts now and only a month ago it was rare to see a dozen comments on a post. I really don’t need more engagement on a post, that’s plenty. Lemmy still needs more users to sustain more niche communities, but in the places that people are it’s already great.
As of this last month, Lemmy is my new “go to” for scrolling social media. My Reddit usage is probably 20% or less of what it used to be.
A part of this was Voyager’s Progressive Web App (https://vger.app), it made me feel right at home after Apollo shut down.
Slowly? Lemmy is easily as entertaining as Reddit and it is just getting going.
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Its getting there, and there is some entertaining content on here (comments and posts). But I think we are still missing the super high end responses. No matter what the topic, one or two people would jump on and have deep specialised knowledge of the field - be it naming an insect from a blurry image or commenting on a geopolitical situation. I still see lots of posts that generate nothing more than “huh” or “wow” type comments.
When that starts appearing more broadly, I think the quality here is going to take another leap.
I think that’ll only really start to happen once you start getting more of the general population on here.
Reddit always had a reputation for being dominated by techy people, that is significantly more so the case here.
Signing up for Lemmy, even knowing where to start is a bigger leap than it is over there. Personally I’m hoping third party apps will be able to help with that by offering some kind of setup wizard with easy options of suggested instances to join.
I certainly hate the people here a lot less. I like how it isn’t the same garbage comments on every post where they hyper analyze videos frame by frame just to call things fake.
I have way more fun on Lemmy. I do need some of the more esoteric an vast archived content from reddit from time to time. For that I just google reddit and no longer sign in. Fedi will get there soon enough though.
Lemmy feels a lot like hackernews
With a bit less bigotry, but otherwise yes.
hackernews is bigoted? Well that’s news. I had no idea.
Yeah, but it’s a really weird libertarian thing where everybody feels like they’re an expert in their field and also everyone else’s. It’s a lot more fun to have in my RSS feeds since I realized that.
HN is to other forums what mathematicians are too the rest of science
That’s giving them a biiit too much credit. More like,
HN is to other forums what annoying 14 year olds h4cker script-kiddies are to computer scientists.
More fun here in my opinion. The HN discussions are very dry.
And hostile ☹️
Lot of empty communities still. Thinking about posting in writingprompts to try to get something rolling there.
I’ve only seen one thread which felt completely like Reddit. The community was for the alien comics, and the comics were taking a dig at imperial units vs metric units. Nothing wrong with that, it was all in good fun and jest.
The comments though were toxic frankly. If you said you liked both systems and provided reasons, you were buried in downvotes. If you discussed some upsides of the imperial system, you were ridiculed to be a child. Even if you were an engineer and you provided a lengthy explanation, it was met with derision. And then there were all the logically inconsistent arguments and the notion that Americans were simultaneously idiots but also apparently complete geniuses with how complex they made the imperial system out to be.
I’m thankful it was just the one thread. All of the politics threads I’ve viewed have been more civil and open to discussion (and I consume a fair bit of political news). Lemmy, until that thread, felt like a place where nuanced opinions and discussions were encouraged and upvoted. I hope it’s just a one off.
I can imagine people who would get mad about imperial units are mad because that system already has had many people arguing for it. That’s how it still persists, despite causing problems. The fact is that metric is definitely more logical but that isn’t even its true strength. Its strength is in universal adoption, like all standards.
I’m guessing from experience that most people on lemmy are more collectivist in nature. Most people here seem to be anti-apple, against big business, and pro Linux and other systems meant to empower the common person, the underdog.
I have noticed repeatedly that people who seem hellbent on being “objective” rub me the wrong way. Not because I am against objectivity, but because they come across as condescending and in support of an argument I’ve heard a million times and I fully reject. So yeah, I’m guessing people might have thought you were in favor of the imperial system and just wanted to “seem” like you were being fair. /shrug
Of course the rebuttal you have could include something like “I’m just trying to provide information and encourage people to think for themselves”. Sure, you might totally be doing that. But for people who already know what you’re talking about, they might think you’re being disingenuous. On reddit I felt like that constantly. So far I luckily don’t feel that much here. I hope that sort of feeling stays on reddit as it really sucks.
I think the metric argument can be a logical discussion, but it can also devolve into a cultural argument, which is what I think has happened here. I’m obviously biased towards the imperial system since I grew up with it, but not so much to call it superior by any means. I think there’s places where it adds value is all.
I guess I could’ve said something about still liking the metric system and thinking it was perfect for science, but it honestly didn’t cross my mind to be that explicit. Since Lemmy is generally more intellectual and not as simplistic, I didn’t think I needed to be.
Perhaps my real mistake here wasn’t recognizing just how passionate some people get about this haha
See this is what I like about Lemmy. People actually seem open to dialogue. I appreciate your response.
I grew up with the imperial system, I just hate that it feels uselessly different to most of the world. I care more about interoperability. “What is that in Celsius?” Is a question I hate asking myself. “What’s the next larger size wrench to a 3/8 inch?” Is another. It’s not a huge deal, if I had to work with wrenches every day I’d get used to it… it’s the idea that standards have one job imo: making shit easier. Reducing cognitive load and communication issues. So since imperial is globally unpopular, I wish we’d just kill it. I am fine with people using it in niche cases they feel it makes sense, I just don’t enjoy it being everywhere in the US, it often feels like a barrier.
See this is what I like about Lemmy. People actually seem open to dialogue. I appreciate your response.
Yes exactly!
And I see what you mean, and it is a good point. I don’t see it as an important distinction in my field, so long as people label their units. But I can imagine in just common communication worldwide, it must be a pain point.
If the US were going to change, I think we’d have to first accept that it’s going to be a long process. We’d need a generation or two to be fluent in both, and we make it a norm for everyone to provide both units in communication. That’ll get us enough people where for everyday use at least, we can just do metric. Industry would be more challenging to change, especially since so much equipment is designed for imperial.
Edit: Oh and I just wanted to say, I really appreciate your open mind and politeness when it comes to discussing difference of opinion.
I feel like I’m stuck between two times periods.
I stopped posting to Reddit because frankly it felt like throwing a pebble into the ocean.
I love the smaller approach here
My posts will get no engagement, negative engagement, and very rarely do I get upvotes. Here in lemmy, there’s lots of quality posts and nice people who engage with my posts.
I’ve been noticing the same thing.
c/worldbuilding
Thanks for the shoutout! It’s going to be a slow climb up, but I’m looking forwards to growing this place as well.
I posted there already :-) because r/worldbuilding had his “thursday don’t post day” or something like that. I didn’t even consider Lemmy an alternative before.
I have to disagree about Lemmy not being very good. It is, IMHO, already very good indeed. It will only improve with time.
You know what will be even better. One instance for all communities. So everyone knows and subscribes to the same community.
Or if someone can come up with a better idea so that everyone doesn’t depend on one instance.
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Also, wouldn’t having a variety of instances essentially make it trickier to monetize? I’m still trying to understand the idea of instances myself, as it is new to me.
I don’t understand the “slowly” part at all. I joined Lemmy about a month ago when Reddit third party apps went dark. Lemmy was largely a ghost town then, with most of the relatively mainstream communities I sought out having newest posts that were days or even weeks old. That desolation was gone after the first few days, with a ton more engagement from others who migrated over and a steady stream of new content. The communities I frequent have grown by leaps and bounds since then. “Slow” isn’t a word I’d use to describe Lemmy’s growth.
It started to slow down, or at least in my instance. People still post and people from another instance visit frequently, but the hype seems to already slow down. I don’t mind though, i don’t think any instance can take the heavy load, it will kill lemmy faster if the instance constantly facing down time.
Since the spike in content that came with the Reddit migration, I feel like things have slowed down. Maybe I’m wrong, I don’t have any stats to back that up.
Maybe “plateau’d” is a better phrase. There has been growth since the Reddit migration, but it has decreased since the spike. Not that that’s a bad thing
I wouldn’t say plateaued. Decreased. A number of the communities that I subscribe to seem to have fewer daily posts than they did a few weeks ago.
I fucking love Lemmy.
Lemmy is the new way of life. Reddit is the toxic ex.
