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      !It does not matter how Christ behaved – what He taught is all that matters!<

      Are you telling me you’ve read a more fucked up sentence than that? This guy was fucking nuts.

      Spoiler tag for the squeamish.

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        Christ taught that we should be good to each other.

        Christ flipped over tables in a rage and cursed a fig tree because he had the munchies.

        I think I agree. Christ was kinda immature. Good message though.

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        There are like 30 other sentences that are more fucked up just in that article. What is so awful about that for you?

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        “I look upon God no better than a scoundrel”

        Seems spot on. God created universe. Creates hell as ETERNAL punishment. Creates rules on how to get into hell. Creates humans knowing many will do to hell.

        God is a soulless cunt. Or he would be, if any of the above made any kind of sense.

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          Again, that’s a common opinion for a circlejerking atheist Internet forum. It’s not at all an acceptable position for a cleric of the Church.

          Luther was a priest who presumed to correct the Christian Church on matters of the faith. He sounds like a fifteen year old neckbeard who has his head squarely ensconced in his own ass.

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            To be fair, one of the big things he “presumed to correct” the church on was indulgences, which I think even the Catholic Church is now like, “yeah, that was bad…”

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              Sure, and I never argued otherwise. The fact that he was able to point out an obviously unjust and despicable practice doesn’t detract from his horrible and unconscionable teachings on other subjects.

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                But how do his teachings compare to others of the time, especially the Catholic Church? If you try to apply 21st Century morality to 16th Century ideas, you are bound to find ideas to consider “unconscionable.” People at large did some absolutely fucked up shit in the past, but in their times much of what they did was a societal norm

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                  Other people also having fucked up opinions at the time also don’t justify the truly fucked up opinions and teachings of one specific person.

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                    The social norms and cultural context of the time absolutely matter when you’re reviewing history