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      Maybe, just maybe the actor is more invested in their particular character than the writer. Or maybe the line suits the actor better.

      It’s disrespectful for the writers to expect actors to play their characters without putting anything of themselves into the act.

      It should absolutely be a collaboration, and not one side dictating to the other, with no feedback allowed.

      But I’m not going to downvote a contribution to the conversation just because I disagree.

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          But it’s not there character any longer, they gave them away. The writer isn’t going to be able to, much less should they dictate every little detail about a performance. Those details are so important to a charter, you can’t say a charter is solely the writers creation.

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      Sometimes the actors know their characters a lot better than the writers. For example, in the empire strikes back, the original script had Han saying something else, whereas Ford came up with the ‘I know’, which fits much better with his character.

      Kershner: (Tries it out) “I love you.” And you say, “Just remember that, Leia, because I’ll be back.” You’ve got to say, “I’ll be back.” You must. It’s almost contractual!

      Ford: If she says “I love you,” and I say “I know,” that’s beautiful and acceptable and funny.

      Kershner: Right, right.

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        Or Rutger Hauer in Blade Runner.

        One of the most influential science fiction monologues was ad libbed, and it’s so much better than the original script.

        Original script:

        “I’ve seen things… seen things you little people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion bright as magnesium… I rode on the back decks of a blinker and watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments… they’ll be gone.”

        Hauer’s monologue:

        “I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe… Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion… I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain… Time to die.”

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      I’ve worked in all sorts of performance disciplines. Comedia dell’arte, High clown, low clown / children’s ents, improv, film, theatre in pros-arch, round…, puppet , Grotowskian devised theatre, Boalian Theatre of the Oppressed…

      Only one small subset of that work demands word-perfect adherence. Performance is much more than post-Stanivlaskian Aristotlean drama.

      Even Beckett, who was completely, insanely anal about everything from the design of the tree in Waiting for Godot, to the size of the spotlight in Not I, to the length and timing of the tapes in Krapps Last Tape, still made on-set changes right up to the performance.

      Not to mention, often on set the script supervisor will sometimes give you last minute changes between takes.

      Then, no script is ever perfect. I did Glengarry Glen Ross (which is suuuper tight in terms of interruptions, e.g.

      A: “And a man has to shiver in his…”

      B: “…shoes…”

      A: “…boots…”

      B: “…shoes… boots…”

      A: “…And for what?” )

      But one night the cop missed his cue during one of the sections where people are coming in and out of the office to be interviewed, and I’m (as Roma) trying to put the screws on the guy from the Chinese restaurant so I have to keep vamping on convincing him not to call his wife until the cop remembers to come out and confuses him for Shelly Levene.

      It’s so much better for the audience for me to vamp than it is for us to stop the play and go and tell the actor he missed his cue. The show must go on.